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Newly formed Christian Band

Discussion in 'Music Ministry' started by tinytim, Apr 27, 2009.

  1. Bro. Curtis

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    I don't care if you follow me, or not. I am proud to stand with Barnabas.
     
  2. FriendofSpurgeon

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    OK, fine with me. In looking at your posts, I've come to this conclusion. You believe:

    1. It is OK to attract the saved to a church thru music.

    2. It is not OK to attract the unsaved to a church thru music.

    All I am asking is for you to confirm, that's all. If not, please tell me. Thanks.
     
  3. John Toppass

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    What????? How dare we try to get the unsaved to come to church. Can you just imagine all the time we would have to waste if we were to minister to them. Maybe we should have a cover charge, that way we would not have to put up with so many people that can't afford to support the church.:BangHead:
     
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    Oh yeah, Tim be proud!!! Beanzpk, keep it up!!! By looking up!
     
  5. Bro. Curtis

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    With respect to TT, who started this thread, I will say my Bible study leads me to believe Christian music should be directed to Heaven, or used to edify each other. Nowhere are we told to use anything worldly to attract people to Church. And I never shared anything but my personal experience, and it looks to me like you want to put words in my mouth in order to start an argument. In my Bible, church is for tha gathering of the saints. People didn't go there to get saved, they went there because they were saved.

    Listen, if it makes you feel better, go to your church rock concerts, & super bowl parties. I will not look down on you. I left my rock church for a solid IFBer, and am happy that way.
     
  6. Barnabas H.

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    It is interesting the direction this thread suddenly turned to, and I apologize to you Bro. tinytim for my (unintentional) attempt to hijack your thread.

    My observation was simply originated on my view that the sound represented in your link, aside from personal talent and qualification as a musician, and even though it represented "Christian" lyrics - in my humble opinion the sound was not doing justice to the words it was trying to emulate. For a personal entertainment, or for a select number of people with similar disposition, perhaps it is appropriate. But I beg the difference with you when it comes to introducing the same sound to our contemporary churches.

    Now, for those who are arguing pro and con about music being amoral, may I remind you that advertisers are very queen to use the power of music to their advantages when it comes to sell a particular brand of item. On Madison Avenue, in New York City, the Mecca of advertisement, a great emphasis is placed on the power of music to influence the mood, emotions, and yes, even the behavior of people. That is why I said that there are sounds (music) which are being inspired to lift one's heart and soul to the throne of God, while other sounds - and as I said, is in an attempt to imitate the world.

    What we miss in our churches is sound leadership. The young people, who have talent and energy, need to be led by example of the older generation. My maternal Grandfather, who was a farmer in Hungary, once told me that the reason he put a younger ox together with an older one was to have the older ox hold back the younger one, which would run away and burn up in a hurry. I thought it made a great sense. By the way, Cal Thomas said in one of his daily column concerning the proper ministry toward our young people. He said something like this, “We need to minister to the need of our young people, and not to their want.”

    I hear some having voiced their opinion concerning my remark that it must be attributed to a generation gap, nothing else. Well, may I remind you that the Bible was written before all of our generations and yet I believe you all agree with me that it is still relevant, the words are pulsating, vibrant, and alive and they are never outdated. There is no generation gap in there – nor should there be. But when it comes to music, well, that’s a different matter…

    For those of you who would like to start a debate about this, I would like to ask you to refrain from doing so. Even though I value your inputs and observations, I do not think that it serves the edification of the hearer to throw rocks at each other – as it sometime happens in other threads. In this thread tinytim introduced his son as a member of a newly formed band, and as such we congratulate them. My observation was only a sound bite of my inner thoughts and wonders over the reality why our young people gravitate away from the gospel Hymns and chose instead endless repetitions of words sandwiched between a heavy beat and syncopated sound….. Just wondering. :type:
     
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    Agreed. I would add that music can also be used to evangelize the lost and draw them to Christ. Perhaps that's where we differ.


    Didn't mean to start an argument. It just seemed that your positions were a bit confusing. Still are.


     
  8. tinytim

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    Listen, there is no need to apologize for your preferences...
    That is what makes the world go around..
    And makes Christianity beautiful.

    God wires us each different. I enjoy my son's music. I love that style.. I am wired that way. BUT I can worship to any style, even the styles I don't like... why?

    Because I am worshipping God.. not a music style.

    So, don't apologize.. this is a debate thread.. debate!.. it's all good!
     
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    Well, anything other than Southern Gospel for me...
     
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