:laugh: You mean all those Viagra emails? Or the ones saying there is a bunch of money in a bank but they can't get it out and need my help? I'd love to! Great idea, OR!! :laugh:
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:laugh: You mean all those Viagra emails? Or the ones saying there is a bunch of money in a bank but they can't get it out and need my help? I'd love to! Great idea, OR!! :laugh:
According to 5 U.S.C. § 552a, United States agencies, including the Executive Office of the President shall, “maintain no record describing how any individual exercises rights guaranteed by the First Amendment unless expressly authorized by statute or by the individual about whom the record is maintained or unless pertinent to and within the scope of an authorized law enforcement activity.”
Dear President Obama,
I write to express my concern about a new White House program to monitor American citizens’ speech opposing your health care policies, and to seek your assurances that this program is being carried out in a manner consistent with the First Amendment and America’s tradition of free speech and public discourse.
Yesterday, in an official White House release entitled “Facts are Stubborn Things,” the White House Director of New Media, Macon Phillips, asserted that there was “a lot of disinformation out there,” and encouraged citizens to report “fishy” speech opposing your health care policies to the White House. Phillips specifically targeted private, unpublished, even casual speech, writing that “rumors often travel just below the surface via chain emails or through casual conversation.” Phillips wrote “If you get an email or see something on the web about health insurance reform that seems fishy, send it to flag@whitehouse.gov.”
I am not aware of any precedent for a President asking American citizens to report their fellow citizens to the White House for pure political speech that is deemed “fishy” or otherwise inimical to the White House’s political interests.
By requesting that citizens send “fishy” emails to the White House, it is inevitable that the names, email addresses, IP addresses, and private speech of U.S. citizens will be reported to the White House. You should not be surprised that these actions taken by your White House staff raise the specter of a data collection program. As Congress debates health care reform and other critical policy matters, citizen engagement must not be chilled by fear of government monitoring the exercise of free speech rights.
I can only imagine the level of justifiable outrage had your predecessor asked Americans to forward emails critical of his policies to the White House. I suspect that you would have been leading the charge in condemning such a program—and I would have been at your side denouncing such heavy-handed government action.
So I urge you to cease this program immediately. At the very least, I request that you detail to Congress and the public the protocols that your White House is following to purge the names, email addresses, IP addresses, and identities of citizens who are reported to have engaged in “fishy” speech. And I respectfully request an answer to the following:
· How do you intend to use the names, email addresses, IP addresses, and identities of citizens who are reported to have engaged in “fishy” speech?
· How do you intend to notify citizens who have been reported for “fishy” speech?
· What action do you intend to take against citizens who have been reported for engaging in “fishy” speech?
· Do your own past statements qualify as “disinformation”? For example, is it “disinformation” to note that in 2003 you said: “I happen to be a proponent of a single-payer universal health care plan”?
I look forward to your prompt response.
Sincerely,
JOHN CORNYN United States Senator
Dear President Obama,
I write to express my concern about a new White House program to monitor American citizens’ speech opposing your health care policies, and to seek your assurances that this program is being carried out in a manner consistent with the First Amendment and America’s tradition of free speech and public discourse.
Yesterday, in an official White House release entitled “Facts are Stubborn Things,” the White House Director of New Media, Macon Phillips, asserted that there was “a lot of disinformation out there,” and encouraged citizens to report “fishy” speech opposing your health care policies to the White House. Phillips specifically targeted private, unpublished, even casual speech, writing that “rumors often travel just below the surface via chain emails or through casual conversation.” Phillips wrote “If you get an email or see something on the web about health insurance reform that seems fishy, send it to flag@whitehouse.gov.”
I am not aware of any precedent for a President asking American citizens to report their fellow citizens to the White House for pure political speech that is deemed “fishy” or otherwise inimical to the White House’s political interests.
By requesting that citizens send “fishy” emails to the White House, it is inevitable that the names, email addresses, IP addresses, and private speech of U.S. citizens will be reported to the White House. You should not be surprised that these actions taken by your White House staff raise the specter of a data collection program. As Congress debates health care reform and other critical policy matters, citizen engagement must not be chilled by fear of government monitoring the exercise of free speech rights.
I can only imagine the level of justifiable outrage had your predecessor asked Americans to forward emails critical of his policies to the White House. I suspect that you would have been leading the charge in condemning such a program—and I would have been at your side denouncing such heavy-handed government action.
So I urge you to cease this program immediately. At the very least, I request that you detail to Congress and the public the protocols that your White House is following to purge the names, email addresses, IP addresses, and identities of citizens who are reported to have engaged in “fishy” speech. And I respectfully request an answer to the following:
· How do you intend to use the names, email addresses, IP addresses, and identities of citizens who are reported to have engaged in “fishy” speech?
· How do you intend to notify citizens who have been reported for “fishy” speech?
· What action do you intend to take against citizens who have been reported for engaging in “fishy” speech?
· Do your own past statements qualify as “disinformation”? For example, is it “disinformation” to note that in 2003 you said: “I happen to be a proponent of a single-payer universal health care plan”?
I look forward to your prompt response.
Sincerely,
JOHN CORNYN United States Senator
OldRegular
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Obama does not have the right to defend his subversion of the Constitution. But he will take it.
OldRegular
Well-Known Member
Is this grounds for impeachment?
If it could be proven that he misuses the information, it could be.
Hey, I think we should all report this letter to the White House email link. I think we should forward this letter in its entirety as a chain e-mail to all our friends and relatives, letting them know of course that something good will happen to them in the next week, if they will only forward this letter to the white house email, then we of course could link that within our email message.
This would be doing our duty as good American Citizens, I mean to report a letter like this to the White House, at the request of the White House, how much more could we show our desire to be good citizens as well as our patriotism?
bro. Dallas
btw, Bro. ED and Bro. Curtis, thank you both for your service to our nation. Not everyone has been able to stand in the ranks you have and I want to say to both of you that your service is appreciated.
May God Bless you both,
The problem:
Obama has shown a total disregard for the Constitution too many times to expect him to care what it says now.
You are right. Likewise the Supreme Court. In fact, each branch of our govt. very apparently just doesn't have the time nor the lawyers necessary to read the Constitution to discover if their executive orders, enlightened interpretives, or proposed legislation will adhere to that standard, so they cast the standard to the ground and continue under the pretense of service, to plod along in Socialist goose step strides.:wavey:ZIGEHEIL!!
bro. Dallas Eaton
Yes CC them and all obedient Obama supporters forward all "fishy" emails, blogs and BB posts you have received to the address the president has given.
Problem: You'll probably get your own name put on the "snitch" list.
HankD
Just sent them email from about 8 addresses.
yeah, I'm probably in trouble. But it's worth it.
So far, I've forwarded emails about healthcare. But I may send them viagr@ ads...since I get a bunch of that manner of spam. Share the wealth, huh?
Robert Snow
New Member
It is reasons like this that I believe the Democrats should ignore the republicans and pass the legislation.
OldRegular
Well-Known Member
The dems/Marxists will have to get at least one RINO so that when the manure hits the fan they can claim the bill was bipartisan!
Why don't they?
Why is it so important to Democrats to have a token Republican on board?
If the Democrats believe that it is truly in the best interests of the American people why don't they pass it and hope that not one single Republican will vote in favor of it?
Why don't they want all the credit and glory to themselves?
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Robert Snow
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Don't ask me; I already said the Democrats should take credit and exclude any republican obstructionist. I guess President Obama is nicer than I am. :laugh:
If you favor an "enemies list," then you are anti-American; I would then question your patriotism and love for this country.
He must be a great fan of Nixon.
Loading up Obama with email...the idea is gaining support.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=469mLTVcWlQ
If we're lucky, the server will get overloaded.
I enourage everyone to send as many emails as possible. I did.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=469mLTVcWlQ
If we're lucky, the server will get overloaded.
I enourage everyone to send as many emails as possible. I did.
Ed Edwards
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I can see it now, the new curse among us:
:tongue3: Go flag yourself :tongue3:
Needless to say, you are being reported to Homeland Security. The anti-cyber branch of Homeland Security is looking for those who threaten the nations cyber-community &/or cyber-infrastructure. "Denial of service' is illegal, you know.