Duggars expecting child #19

I am a middle child from a family of twelve children. I also never felt neglected or overworked.

Some one who is not a part of a large family probably can't understand how truly special it can be.

I think that I speak for my seven sisters and four brothers as well.

 

Paying their own way is one area that I can wholeheartedly commend the Duggars for. :thumbs:

 

Your assessment is wrong. First, I for one am not a "libbie". Second, I'm not condemning them. I'm noting the fact that they're being irresponsible. Third, not a single post in this thread has suggested they be supported by the government.

My suspicion is based on the numerous posts on that, where faith should not be an issue, demonstrate a bias towards persons based solely or primarily on that person's faith.

That said, two people so far have said they would grant a mormon, muslim, atheist, etc. the same grace. It's noted that they're being consistent on their application.

One's feelings aren't necessarily an indicator of responsible behavior. I myself came from a singel parent household. I never felt deprived or neglected. But that doesn't change the fact that it was irresponsible for one of my biological parents to leave. Just because I never felt shortchanged doesn't mean I wasn't. Likewise, just because the children might have no feeling of their parents being irresponsible doesn't mean that their parents aren't irresponsible. The fact that they require the help of their adult children to raise the younger ones, AND are consinuing to have more children is an indicator of irresponsibility. The fact that they are forbiding their adult children from working, leaving the house to live on their own, or going to college is an indicator of abuse of parental authority (which, so far, no one here disagrees with).

 

They are grown and responsible for their own lives, including staying or leaving. If they stay, they obey the family rules.

That's just the way it is...and should be.

 

Not sharing the same values as webdog does not make one a slave.

 

I am thankful for their commitment to honor Christ in all things. They are a great example of how a loving family can grow towards Christ (spiritually and, um, numerically.)

Their tv show (for a time I think) came right before the other large Christian family. I am thankful for their humble, genuine commitment to Christ before a national audience. I am thankful that they are not so worried about glitz and deeply concerned with their family.

I say that and shake my head that this man must be the happiest guy on the face of the earth. This is not a feat I feel led to accomplish in my life.

 

Yet their involvement in the "Quiverful Christian" movement, a movement which perverts scripture, goes unquestioned.

Interestingly the Arkansas public school system has a student-teacher ration of 12:1, while private schools in the state have a ration of 4:1. The Duggar ratio during the day is 19:1 (the father works). Why is it considered unacceptible for a class of 19 to have only teacher, when a parent can have 19 children without being considered irresponsible?

 

Upon further consideration, I withdraw my child abuse description(since it is such a loaded term) and instead agree with your abuse of parental authority description.

 

Obviously, in another shameful act of abusing parental authority, the older children help teach the younger children. So, while adding to your contempt for the way they raise their children, it also adds to the number of teachers versus children and the ratio is much improved. In some cases (the youngest children), the ratio may be the best in the state!

 

You guys and this abusing parental authority description probably also believed Abraham abused his parental authority in regards to Isaac. You know, he raised Isaac to believe in the authority of God and to not question God, or his parents. If Abraham would have just let Isaac think for himself not raise him in such a fundamental way, we could just eliminate all those pesky verses in the Bible about Abraham and his sacrificing of Isaac.