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Discussion in 'Other Discussions' started by Spinach, Oct 26, 2010.

  1. Jim1999

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    I am not really big on accreditation. Yes, all my schools were accredited. The important thing about education to me, is what I learn and not what I display behind my name.

    Cheers,

    Jim
     
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    I understand what you mean, Jim, and agree that education is most important. However, I knew of many people who attended PCC believing they would be able to work in their chosen field without question, only to be turned down by many potential employers and graduate schools. Many undergraduate programs will also not accept their credits if they choose to transfer.
     
  3. FriendofSpurgeon

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    Thanks -- I appreciate the input. Sounds like a great place. Actually, sounds like my son's high school. Unfortunately, I'm afraid that far too often "Christian Education" is an oxymoron.
     
  4. jaigner

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    I will say that, because of the size, the student body as a whole is very mixed. There are all kinds of people with varying levels of religious, if not Christian, commitments.

    But in each department, there are bound to be many of like faith or who can engage with graciousness.
     
  5. Spinach

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    I agree about PCC, but they are very MK friendly, which really helps. Are these others MK friendly? As in, helping them integrate into American life, financial aid, etc.
     
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    University of Mobile.

    They pull off both halves of "Christian Education" quite well.



    I also echo the concerns mentioned about PCC. I wouldn't send my child there if they paid me. You either end up with a hyper-fundy, legalistic, Pharasaical worldview...or, they rebel and go buck wild.

    (Kind of like that Josh McDowell quote..."rules without relationship leads to rebellion.")
     
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    I'm glad to hear they've still got some evangelical push. My husband is a Baylor grad and he would call it a Christian in name only uni from his experiences there.
     
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    Same here. I do know some who have found work in their fields, but I also know many educators who thought they'd be able to find a secular job and could not.
     
  9. Spinach

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    I could see him rebelling. I don't want that for him. I want him to stick with it and get a good education. But we will be unable to help him financially with college, so he will need some help with that aspect for sure.
     
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    If only the majority of employers hired on that concept...
     
  11. Jim1999

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    Let it be clear, I do not oppose education. Get all one can get, and do well with it.

    If I wanted to be en electrition, I obviously would not study plumbing.

    Now, the University of Chicago's school of theology has a very high academic standing, but would not be appropriate for a fundamental, evangelical pastoral role. Neither would a lesser questionable bible school. What I did say was to prove your education as you speak, and not by displaying letters behind your name.

    In higher positions in the workplace, one's job is secured in his interview and not by the degrees and schools listed in his application. Prove your education when you speak.

    A pastor convinces me as he preaches, and not by his B.D. or ThD posted on the bulletin board. Simple as that, and no more.

    Cheers,

    Jim
     
  12. rbell

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    Univ. of Mobile, in times past, was known for being quite helpful in the area of aid.

    I'm sure it's tighter and more competitive now...but from what I'm told, it's still a good deal (for a private school), and the education's solid.
     
  13. Spinach

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    We're not necessarily wanting him to get a "Christian education", we just want him to get a good start in a nice environment.

    I will be checking into all these schools. Thanks!
     
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    Good luck Spinach ---

    Here are three others to check out --

    Grand Canyon University -- located in Arizona -- www.gcu.edu
    Belhaven University -- located in Mississippi -- www.bellhaven.edu
    Campbell University -- located in North Carolina -- www.cambell.edu

    Since you are out of the country, I would encourage you (in addition to lots of prayer) to visit each of the colleges' web sites. They not only provide useful information, they also provide you and your son with a "feel" of the university.

    Once you've narrowed the search down, you may want to have some serious phone conversations with the admissions counselors. Given the fact that these are Christian universities, they should more than appreciate the fact that you are missionaries and live overseas.

    Godspeed in your search.
     
  15. Spinach

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    I have reviewed all the colleges mentioned in this thread. I wrote to most of them and asked specific questions. The replies were truly interesting. One was very honest---said that the student body was mostly made up of spoiled rich Christian kids, all competing to see who could be most perfect. I got a hearty chuckle about that one. LOL!

    I'm looking for one with a good arts department, particularly in the field of sequential art. I'm not sure that a good department like that exists at a Baptist liberal arts college, but I'm hopeful.
     
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    This is why my oldest ended up at a secular college - there was no Christian college with an art program that would be worthy of a job later. The school she's attending is smallish and only about 30 miles from home so she commutes.
     
  17. Spinach

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    I wish it were possible with us, Ann, but commuting across the world would be difficult :)

    It may be possible to house him with friends, but that has an element of difficulty as well.
     
  18. billwald

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    Does the kid want to go to college?

    Why does he want to go to college?

    In what does he want to major?

    Is the bottom line purpose of going learning or a job?

    If job, what is the job market? Are there a million qualified people in the field out of work and looking for jobs?

    Will he pay cash or borrow money to attend? Half the kids going to college will NEVER break even?

    Does he have great grades? Most of the kids who should be in college this year have scholarships.

    (If he is letting you chose a college for him) Maybe he should go to a community college, get some cheap basic credits, and grow up.
     
  19. Spinach

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    He wants to go to college.

    He wants to get his foot in the door of comic book/graphic novel art. He's really very good at it. His major would be sequential art.

    His grades are good. Could be better, but they're not bad.

    He wants to make a career out of his favorite hobby, drawing.

    I don't know about the financial end because we have a few more years.

    We're not choosing his school for him. Just aiding in the search.
     
  20. billwald

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    >He wants to get his foot in the door of comic book/graphic novel art.

    He needs a techi school, not a full blown college. A friends' kid studied at ITT (for profit school) and was pleased with the results.

    Another friend's kid studied with ITT and the school found him a decent job.

    My son-in-law is finishing a 4 year program in computer (something) and also is happy with his classes. We would have paid his tuition at a state college but this is what he chose.

    http://www.itt-tech.edu/
     
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