Obama Planted the Seeds of Revolution???

[righteousdude2]

In my humble opinion, when Obama made his after a worldwide tour, after taking over the office of POTUS, his message was clear: The young people would be the ones to affect change.

I wonder if anyone else saw this coming pursuant to his message that the young people could bring "change" right where they live?

I also have two other theories I'd like to float!

1.Getting a black man elected to the most powerful position in the world (POTUS) was a good move by those behind this world-wide movement. If this nation were to even try to get rid of Obama, there'd be a racial war like no one has ever seen before.

I believe both blacks and Hispanics would rise up support Obama to their deaths.

2. Some how, Obama is truly behind this obamunist movement that has erupted in the mid-East! There is so little information on this man before his meteoric rise to politics, and it is possible that he was being groomed by Muslims, as many have ventured to say long before I floated this thought today.

I think there will be a day coming, when Obama will address this nation and the world in his Mulsim dress (garb).

I know I will get hit hard on these thoughts, so go ahead and take your shots. I do not plan to answer or respond! I just wanted to see what kind of talk these theories could generate.

The overthrow of Tunasia and now Eygpt is the beginning of something much larger. And in the end, I honestly believe Obama and his entourage are bed with the enemy.

The only positive thing I have to look forward to if I'm correct, is that when Sharia Law rules the world, the first people to be rounded up and tried as traitors will be the like of Bill Maher, Keith Olberman, Rosy O'Donell, Carl Reiner, Jane Fonda, etc.

And for those who questioned my coming of the joining of Mexico, America and Canada as one government, I still see that happening. It has to come about to make sense out of everything else going on in the world.

A United America's will be that much stronger when we face the coming Jihad.

As for Israel, clearly they will have to stand ALONE when the last battle to wipe them off the face of the earth comes. That is Biblical. No one will be there to stand with them, but Jehovah, and that is more than sufficient.

Praise God for allowing me to live in such an exciting day and age of history. There is no need to fear the changes, as they have to come about in order to see the "thief" come in the night and sweep up His church on the day of rapture!

Shalom,

Pastor Paul

 

[SpiritualMadMan]

Paul,

Hit hard? Why? Because you are sharing your hearts truth?

I, too, see the "writing on the wall".

And, except for Divine Intervention in the affairs of man, I see Our Lord's Return as very soon indeed.

Exciting? YES! And, just a bit scary...

And, Yes, I, too, am continually astonished by the number of Professing Christians, Both Pentecostal and Non-Pentecostal who still grabt obama near messiah status...

Speaking of Israel:
Mat 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
Mat 24:22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
Also in: Mar 13:20

Speaking of the Church(sadly):
2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

Yes, exciting times indeed!

 

[NaasPreacher (C4K)]

So is the overthrow of dictators a bad thing?

 

[carpro]

So is the overthrow of dictators a bad thing?

What usually happens in that part of the world is that they just trade one dictator for another.

Is that a bad thing? Could be.

Right now, after the virtually bloodless military coup in Egypt, we just don't know who the next dictator will be.

 

[NaasPreacher (C4K)]

What usually happens in that part of the world is that they just trade one dictator for another.

Is that a bad thing? Could be.

Right now, after the virtually bloodless military coup in Egypt, we just don't know who the next dictator will be.

Agreed. Totally.

My problem with this whole issue is that if a dictator will 'kiss up' to the US and Israel a lot is excused.

If President Obama is 'to blame' is this the end of that unspoken doctrine?

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Statement: believe both blacks and Hispanics would rise up support Obama to their deaths.


I think people are smarter than that....I know quite a few folks from both ethnicities that dont like him because of his stand on the economy, abortion, faith etc.

I think you need to get out more & converse with people. If Obama (otherwise referred to as BO) adversely affects peoples take home pay, or offends their faith & values that people will see past his color.

 

[carpro]

Agreed. Totally.

My problem with this whole issue is that if a dictator will 'kiss up' to the US and Israel a lot is excused.

If President Obama is 'to blame' is this the end of that unspoken doctrine?

I prefer a dictator who is friendly to the interests of the U.S., don't you?

OR

Would you rather he be an enemy?

Obama isn't to blame for the overthrow of Mubarak. He and his administration didn't have a clue it was going to happen. Neither do they have a clue what's going to happen now.

The Obama administration are amateurs and incompetents. Whatever it is , they'll have no say in the matter. Considering their inexperience and leanings, that's probably a good thing. They'd just screw it up.

 

[NaasPreacher (C4K)]

I prefer a dictator who is friendly to the interests of the U.S.

I would prefer no dictator, and a pro-US dictator is still an enemy of freedom. The 'kiss-up' doctrine allows people to suffer just to benefit US interest. That is wrong.

Obama isn't to blame for the overthrow of Mubarak. He and his administration didn't have a clue it was going to happen. Neither do they have a clue what's going to happen now.

The Obama administration are amateurs and incompetents. Whatever it is , they'll have no say in the matter. Considering their inexperience and leanings, that's probably a good thing. They'd just screw it up.

I agree. This has been my issue with President Obama since the campaign. We can get so distracted with silly fights that we forget that the President and his staff are simply not competent to run the country. If that was made a campaign issue instead of meaningless accusations we might see him defeated in 2012. If we keep focusing on the distractions he will get back in.

 

[SpiritualMadMan]

I would prefer no dictator, and a pro-US dictator is still an enemy of freedom. The 'kiss-up' doctrine allows people to suffer just to benefit US interest. That is wrong.
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The problem is, is that most in the Middles East, because of the prevailing religious teachings, have no clue what Freedom really is or how to act if they had it.

The whole concept of Freedom, as it relates to the US, is totally foreign to the muslim world in general.

In fact, I believe that the US would not even exist if people didn;t recognize the freedom that Christ gives.

Yes, I don't like the idea of a dictator, either.

But, we have seen the fiasco Iraq and Afghanistan are.

Why was America so successful in seeking freedom?

Because well educated Christians rightly divided The Word of God and sought an educated solution in keeping with their faith.

To say the Shah of Iran was brutal, is correct. But, was Komeni and his religious thugs any less brutal? I don't think so.

As Patrick henry said so eloqunetly,

Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!

I would put forth to all here on this forum that death is preferrable to slavery to islam...

 

[mandym]

It is hard to see him as an actual dictator when he was so easily ousted.

 

[NaasPreacher (C4K)]

Mubarak was dictator of Egypt for 30 years. No one seriously doubts that he was a dictator.

Because he supported Israel and the US he was able to keep that power and rule with an iron fist. We have plenty of hints, but now the whole truth will come out.

He fell this time because his friends did not come to his aid.

Was that a wise decision? We will have to wait and see, but the US has no business supporting dictators just because they are nice to us. We have done it over and over again in history and it always comes back to bite us. If Egypt moves against Israel it will be with arms sent to them from Washington.

 

[NaasPreacher (C4K)]

The problem is, is that most in the Middles East, because of the prevailing religious teachings, have no clue what Freedom really is or how to act if they had it.

The whole concept of Freedom, as it relates to the US, is totally foreign to the muslim world in general.

In fact, I believe that the US would not even exist if people didn;t recognize the freedom that Christ gives.

Yes, I don't like the idea of a dictator, either.

But, we have seen the fiasco Iraq and Afghanistan are.

Why was America so successful in seeking freedom?

Because well educated Christians rightly divided The Word of God and sought an educated solution in keeping with their faith.

To say the Shah of Iran was brutal, is correct. But, was Komeni and his religious thugs any less brutal? I don't think so.

As Patrick henry said so eloqunetly,



I would put forth to all here on this forum that death is preferrable to slavery to islam...

The people of Egypt have spoken. We may end up not liking what they have said, but it would not be right for the US to impose our will on them by financing their dictator any longer.

 

[mandym]

We see his iron fist in action now don't we.

 

[NaasPreacher (C4K)]

The man is 82 years old. His dictatorship lasted far longer than most dictators in history. All dictatorships, no matter how severe, eventually come to an end.

If President Obama is behind this fair play to him. We must stop supporting dictators who deprive people of their right of self-determination.

There is no guarantee that we will like their determination. There is not guarantee that Egypt will be better off with self-determination. There is no guarantee that another dictator will not rise to the fore. But the US has no right supporting liberty suppressing dictators.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

Nice job on this thread, Roger.

 

[NaasPreacher (C4K)]

Nice job on this thread, Roger.

Thanks brother (I am assuming that this is sincere )

It took me a long time to come to an opinion of this event - I kept my mouth shut until I did

 

[mandym]

The man is 82 years old. His dictatorship lasted far longer than most dictators in history. All dictatorships, no matter how severe, eventually come to an end.

If President Obama is behind this fair play to him. We must stop supporting dictators who deprive people of their right of self-determination.

There is no guarantee that we will like their determination. There is not guarantee that Egypt will be better off with self-determination. There is no guarantee that another dictator will rise to the fore. But the US has no right supporting liberty suppressing dictators.

I don't think we should have ever supported him. In fact I am sick of financial aid to most other countries we support. But dictator appears to be an over statement. This came to an end of power with no blood shed. The people called for it and it happened. What ever they may be is not under a dictatorship. Otherwise people would have had to die to make the change.

 

[NaasPreacher (C4K)]

I don't think we should have ever supported him. In fact I am sick of financial aid to most other countries we support. But dictator appears to be an over statement. This came to an end of power with no blood shed. The people called for it and it happened. What ever they may be is not under a dictatorship. Otherwise people would have had to die to make the change.

He was called president, but no election were held until 2005, and those were supervised by his office and are highly suspect. Egypt has been under 'Emergency Law' since 1967 (I think that is the year) whereby the constitution has been suspended.

He was a dictator, I don't think any major players in world affairs have ever doubted that.

 

[mandym]

Maybe you should go talk to Castro.

 

[NaasPreacher (C4K)]

Maybe you should go talk to Castro.

I am not sure what Castro has to do with Mubarak's dictatorshipship, except that it has existed even longer.

Is there any evidence from the last thirty years to indicate that Mubarak was anything less than a dictator. The only reason his downfall happened was because he lost the support of his buddies in Washington. And I think that is a good thing.