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  1. Alive in Christ

    Alive in Christ New Member

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    Yet God had Pricilla as the primary teacher, with her husband in a supporting role.
     
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  2. stilllearning

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    This is all the Bible has to say about the incident........
    Acts 18:25-26
    V.25 This man was instructed in the way of the Lord; and being fervent in the spirit, he spake and taught diligently the things of the Lord, knowing only the baptism of John.
    V.26 And he began to speak boldly in the synagogue: whom when Aquila and Priscilla had heard, they took him unto [them], and expounded unto him the way of God more perfectly.
     
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  3. JesusFan

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    Again, thre Lord has given women same gifts as the men, so women can and do teach in Church, its just NOT allowed to in capacity of head spiritually authority, which in baptist churches usually pastor/elder board!
     
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  4. Amy.G

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    Where do you get this idea? I don't know of scripture that says she had a primary role of teacher. But it's certainly possible I missed it.
     
    #24 Amy.G, Aug 31, 2011
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    Fully agreed. I do believe the church would be severely unhealthy if it were not for women and women can take a prominent role in the church but not be in leadership over men. I've said it before - our church has probably more than half of the staff as women and they keep the church running from children's ministries, women's ministries, the preschool, managing the small groups, logistics of the building use, website management, counseling, etc. The weekend that the women are away at the ladies' retreat, the men always say that they really know that we're gone by the way things go on Sunday (certainly never as smooth as if we are there). But that doesn't mean we need to be the senior pastors at all.
     
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    Just because her name was used first we now decide that she was the primary teacher and her husband just supported her? I don't see that at all in the context of the passage.

    However, both my husband and I will work with a man (we are currently doing that with a young man who is a new believer) together to help him along in his faith. I'm not there all the time but there have been many times he's come to our home and both Bob and I will sit down with him. Now, most everyone around here says "Ann and Bob" instead of "Bob and Ann". Does that mean I'm the primary teacher? No.
     
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  7. freeatlast

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    Scripture goes a littel further. A woman cannot teach men either even if she is not the head pastor. That would include Sunday school and mixed class'.
     
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    That's ok. At one time, in Canada, women were not even a person! Does chauvinism in one century mean that chauvinism survives forever?

    Cheers,

    Jim
     
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  9. stilllearning

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    chauvinism (sho¹ve-nîźem) noun
    1. Militant devotion to and glorification of one's country; fanatical patriotism.
     
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    chauvinism.....excessive or prejudiced support or loyalty to men or group or sex..Oxford dictionary.

    Cheers,

    Jim
     
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    Think the Apostle paul under divine inspiration said that she could not teach IF it violated soiritual authority within the Church...

    Think that refers to headship, primary leadership roles, don't think meant a gifted woman could not teach mixed couple sunday school for example!
     
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    If you feel that way about God then tell Him. Those are His commands.
     
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    Well then you need to re-think and accept what scripture says. She is not permitted to teach men or exercise authority over a man. That would not only include teaching men but she cannot hold any position where men are involved and her being the chair person.
     
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    Rebellion=, uprising or insurrection, is a refusal of obedience or order.
     
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  15. JesusFan

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    NO!

    believe that she would be covered under/by the spiritual authority God ordained in place over that Church, the pastor/Elders...

    As Long as they were all male and in final control, she would be 'covered" and scriptually permitted!

    example would be at my Church, a lady part of pastoral ministry prayer team, and she can teach/pray over even men, as we are 'covered" by an assigned Elder over the team!
     
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    A lot of people believe a lot of things but scripture is clear she is not allowed to teach or have authority over a man. The rebellious cannot accept that.
     
    #36 freeatlast, Aug 31, 2011
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    Wow talk about a thread that WAY OFF it's original topic.

    Man the more I'm around here the more I see people walk into threads with their fists up, ready to start swinging.
     
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    believe in what bible teaches , just disagree with your interpretation of what Paul meant!
     
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    Sort of like date rape? I believe no means no and you believe no means go ahead.
     
    #39 freeatlast, Aug 31, 2011
  20. JesusFan

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    hope that you never knew anyone who ever got raped!

    I was just stating that your reasoning of what Paul meant conflicting with mine, and that there is no legit way to say that yours is "better" than mine!
     
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