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Just Curious on the thoughts about what happened to the Ark of the Covenant

beameup

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We tend to see it as being that the Holy spirit is still here, as he is Omnipresent, but that He has gone back to dealing with peoples as in OT times...

God still saves those whom are his own, but that they are not as in NT times filled and sealed, more like marked by Him for God!

:thumbsup:

I would only add that it would be possible to "lose your salvation"
during the Tribulation if you take the "mark of the beast".

I am beginning to think that those who "refuse the mark" will be viewed
by others worse than the Jews were viewed by the NAZI's in Germany.

And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved. ["end" of his life] - Mt 10:22
Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake. - Mt 24:9
 

th1bill

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This string is showing all the signs of having been Hijacked and it is, for that reason, that this post is going to be ignored but here goes.

The Mississippi Baptist Preacher that baptized and grounded me in the ministry later became a Missionary and was posted on the field in Israel. Brother Clark was at the site of the dig that was so despised and protested under the Dome of the Rock On that night the Ark of the Covenant was removed from the Holy of Holies, from underground. Brother Clark reported that the Ark was then moved to the storage area that contains all the precut stones, clothing and other artifacs for rebuilding the Temple.
 

blackbird

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This string is showing all the signs of having been Hijacked and it is, for that reason, that this post is going to be ignored but here goes.

The Mississippi Baptist Preacher that baptized and grounded me in the ministry later became a Missionary and was posted on the field in Israel. Brother Clark was at the site of the dig that was so despised and protested under the Dome of the Rock On that night the Ark of the Covenant was removed from the Holy of Holies, from underground. Brother Clark reported that the Ark was then moved to the storage area that contains all the precut stones, clothing and other artifacs for rebuilding the Temple.

Can you take us there??? To the exact place where the physical ark is now???
 

glfredrick

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This string is showing all the signs of having been Hijacked and it is, for that reason, that this post is going to be ignored but here goes.

The Mississippi Baptist Preacher that baptized and grounded me in the ministry later became a Missionary and was posted on the field in Israel. Brother Clark was at the site of the dig that was so despised and protested under the Dome of the Rock On that night the Ark of the Covenant was removed from the Holy of Holies, from underground. Brother Clark reported that the Ark was then moved to the storage area that contains all the precut stones, clothing and other artifacs for rebuilding the Temple.

I'm not disputing your testimony (I can't -- wasn't there) but I do wonder if the "Holy of Holies" was truly discovered if God would still have in force His ancient decree about whom and when an individual could enter that room without certain death. Seems like the Levitical Law would still be in force for that. Your thoughts are welcome!
 

th1bill

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Can you take us there??? To the exact place where the physical ark is now???

Iḿ in a wheel chair, motorized, and Jerusalem is a long way off! And, to my knowledge, there is not a web site. Bro. Richard did not write a book, he is a Missionary, not a philanthropist.
 

th1bill

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I'm not disputing your testimony (I can't -- wasn't there) but I do wonder if the "Holy of Holies" was truly discovered if God would still have in force His ancient decree about whom and when an individual could enter that room without certain death. Seems like the Levitical Law would still be in force for that. Your thoughts are welcome!

Great question! I had never considered that aspect but, in light of Mal. 3:6a, it seems certain to me that only the Priests would be allowed inside. That is a point not covered by Richard in his report. I have, since, lost contact and he is still on the field and Iĺl not be able to ask.

What I do know is that without the ash of the Red Heifer the Temple worship cannot resume but,soon after Bro. Richard reported this event, there were a group of Fundamental Jewish men that purchased an entire herd, not sure of the number, of Red Cows and Bulls and shipped them to Israel. Without the ashes of the original to mingle with the new ashes they cannot be used and to me that tends to lend credit to the report.

I´ve been told there are still Levital Priests among the Fundamentalists and it would seem to me that they would have been the only one´s allowed to enter, without being struck dead. Great point.
 

blackbird

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Iḿ in a wheel chair, motorized, and Jerusalem is a long way off! And, to my knowledge, there is not a web site. Bro. Richard did not write a book, he is a Missionary, not a philanthropist.

Whats his last name----just asking----I pastored 16 years in MS
 

th1bill

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Whats his last name----just asking----I pastored 16 years in MS

As a servant of the LORD i'm not trying to be snippy but the single most important, personal, tool at my or any other minister's disposal and particularly true of a Pastor is keen observation. Why do I say that? In my first post I gave brother Richard Clark's last name and have since called him by his given name.
 

abcgrad94

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What I do know is that without the ash of the Red Heifer the Temple worship cannot resume but,soon after Bro. Richard reported this event, there were a group of Fundamental Jewish men that purchased an entire herd, not sure of the number, of Red Cows and Bulls and shipped them to Israel. Without the ashes of the original to mingle with the new ashes they cannot be used and to me that tends to lend credit to the report.
It was reported a few years ago that the ashes of the red heifer HAD indeed been found. I believe it was in a Christian magazine publication.
 

blackbird

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As a servant of the LORD i'm not trying to be snippy but the single most important, personal, tool at my or any other minister's disposal and particularly true of a Pastor is keen observation. Why do I say that? In my first post I gave brother Richard Clark's last name and have since called him by his given name.

You tryin' to be cute????:tongue3::laugh::laugh:

Keen observation belongs in the realm of Sherlock Holmes!!!!:type:
 

th1bill

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It was reported a few years ago that the ashes of the red heifer HAD indeed been found. I believe it was in a Christian magazine publication.

Again, I'm not an expert but it is my understanding thatthey were with the Ark.
 

blackbird

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Again, I'm not an expert but it is my understanding thatthey were with the Ark.

The ashes of the red Heifer were found in the Ark???

According to the Bible there were three items that were to be placed in the ark

The Ten Commands

Aaron's Rod

A bowl of Manna
 

Christie1107

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I think the ark, like everything else God does not want us to find, is hidden somewhere preserved as no corrupt hands do not get a hold of it and will be revealed to us when Jesus comes. Eden and everything else will be visible to us when we get to live in Christ's kingdom.
 

th1bill

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The ashes of the red Heifer were found in the Ark???

According to the Bible there were three items that were to be placed in the ark

The Ten Commands

Aaron's Rod

A bowl of Manna

I'm sorry, you quoted my post and didn't read it? Strange! I said with, not in, sir.
 

th1bill

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I think the ark, like everything else God does not want us to find, is hidden somewhere preserved as no corrupt hands do not get a hold of it and will be revealed to us when Jesus comes. Eden and everything else will be visible to us when we get to live in Christ's kingdom.

A great idea Christie, but without the ashes and the Ark there can be not Temple Worship and that is to be practiced for the first three and a half years of the Tribulation, if we are to believe the scriptures and Jesus doesn't set foot on the Earth until the end of that period.
 

Zenas

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A great idea Christie, but without the ashes and the Ark there can be not Temple Worship and that is to be practiced for the first three and a half years of the Tribulation, if we are to believe the scriptures and Jesus doesn't set foot on the Earth until the end of that period.
Ashes? Perhaps. Ark? I think not. They had no ark from the time of the Babylonian conquest until 70 A.D. but they certainly had temple worship during most of that time. Like many others, I really hope the ark is found and placed in a rebuilt temple in Jerusalem. But it is not the sine qua non of temple worship.
 

Amy.G

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Tradition records that even as King Solomon built the First Temple, he already knew, through Divine inspiration, that eventually it would be destroyed. Thus Solomon, the wisest of all men, oversaw the construction of a vast system of labyrinths, mazes, chambers and corridors underneath the Temple Mount complex. He commanded that a special place be built in the bowels of the earth, where the sacred vessels of the Temple could be hidden in case of approaching danger. Midrashic tradition teaches that King Josiah of Israel, who lived about forty years before the destruction of the First Temple, commanded the Levites to hide the Ark, together with the original menorah and several other items*, in this secret hiding place which Solomon had prepared.
This location is recorded in our sources, and today, there are those who know exactly where this chamber is. And we know that the ark is still there, undisturbed, and waiting for the day when it will be revealed.

http://www.templeinstitute.org/ark_of_the_covenant.htm
 
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