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Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by seekingthetruth, May 7, 2012.

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  1. Steadfast Fred

    Steadfast Fred Active Member

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    My wife's mother had Alzheimer's and to my knowledge never spit on anyone.

    I have been around many Alzheimer's patients and have never been spit on.
     
  2. seekingthetruth

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    Come on FAL.
    It would actually explain alot.

    John
     
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    Oh please! :rolleyes:
     
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    God bless.
     
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  6. seekingthetruth

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    It's funny that when FAL was attacking me for having a mental illness he was very blatant and very outspoken about it.


    Go figure

    John
     
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    No thanks - I have a life to live. You made the assertion - please list the names and at least the audio for each one who says that they made it up.
     
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    Then answer my earlier question.

    Sadly freeatlast, you equate illness with sin. Repent and study the Scripture!
     
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    But it is conjecture on your part that it is non-physical. The lack of proof one way or the other does not make conjecture of one view superior to the opposing view.

    And so there is disagreement in the field. There is that same types of argument in many fields such as philosophy, physics, mathematics, theology... Most professionals will seek to understand the world in which they work, always looking for the truth (and some never coming to know the author of it).

    Again, it doesn't make one side of the argument either more Godly (truthful) or even correct.

    Personally, I view Christ as an example.

    He had and does have a physical body, it includes all the attributes of human form (except blood) and when He returns, we shall be like Him.

    Therefore, the mind, brain, heart... continue and in fact are physical just as Christ.

    As has been posted, science has yet to find the soul, the mind, the temperment, but that does not translate into them not being in some physical state, yet undiscovered (such as a dimension of living we are not aware).

    Paul states that the believer does not wrestle in the flesh, but with principalities (greek word means magistrate, powers (greek word means mastery, force, copetency) against the rulers of the darkness (greek word meaning shadiness, obscurity) of this world, against spiritual wickedness (greek sins, wickedness) in high places.

    The battle of the mind is in that dimension. A dimension in which we do not "see" with science at this time, just as the vast solar system was in the previous century just beginning to open to exploration.

    For centuries pre-space exploration had scientists actually debating on what constituted space. Some considered it ether filled and others as specks of dust. The first lunar landing was filled with fear that the moon was unstable. Silly, now looking back.


    Perhaps in the future the dimension of the mind and soul will also be more accessible to the natural person. What better way for the anti-christ to sway the masses of humanity than to use science to disprove the wonders of God - giving life to statue and dead body.
     
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    No I equate sin with sin just like the bible and don't make excuses for the sinner.
     
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    But you dont think that homosexuality is a sin?

    John
     
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    It is as much sin as is anger outbursts.
    Col 3:8 But now ye also put off all these; anger, wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy communication out of your mouth.
     
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    So let me get this straight? You can accuse me of being sinful and unrepentent because i have a mental illness???? But when i ask the obvious question about you being gay i have 'filthy communication out of your mouth'?

    Am I understanding you right?

    I don't have a choice whether to have a mental disorder or not.....but you do have a choice to be gay or not...

    Who is the most sinful? A person with a genetic mental disorder like me?

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    But please don't lie

    John
     
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    All sin comes from choice. Out bursts of anger is no different then homosexuality, both are sin. Read the following and it might help you. God bless
    http://z13.invisionfree.com/Christian_Group/index.php?showtopic=4
     
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    God bless.
     
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    All of your credibility went down the drain now that we know what you are.

    John
     
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    God bless you John. Remember drugs cover sin and confesson and forsaking heals the sin.
     
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    Hey,

    I have a question about your "treatment" on medications and your success off medications.

    First, let me state that we may disagree on some topics, but I am in TOTAL agreement about sin being the root of all evil. As it impacts the humankind, there are certain escapes that some would enjoy that lead to destruction. But one of the fascinating posts that you made (to my view) was when you stated your own early struggle, the use of the medical helps, and now, how you abide in Christ.

    If you would rather communicate off forum on this topic, send me a note - I think it is called PM.
     
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    I have had meds as a lost person very early in life, but I have never used meds to control my behavior as a believer. When I first came to Christ I thought I would lose my mind setting aside the sin that ruled me for so long, but I stood on the word and did not use the drugs to cover the truth of what was inside. No doubt it was a raging battle, but every failure along the line drew me closer to Him overcoming the problems instead of burying them with drugs. Confession and forsaking is the only way to oversome sin.
    Let this fill your heart and God will do the rest;
    http://www.gerald285.com/view/uploads/carrollmorelike2.wmv
     
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