Millenial Exclusion

The doctrine of Millennial Exclusion is a false doctrine. Believers will not be cast into outer darkness, contrary to the heretical teachings of Joey Faust, Charles Stanley and others.

 

After reading the OP, I decided to search for other mentions of Millennial Exclusion on the BB. My search yielded this result:

Action of BB Administrative Council

 

This is a good subject to stay away from. A few years back several were banned over this subject. Aside from that, it is one of the most ignorant docitrines I have ever heard of.

 

Answers from a Non-KJVO Bible student:

1.In 1 Corinthians 9:27 Paul labors to keep from being a “castaway.” In Luke 9, Jesus addresses His disciples (including Peter, vv.20, 23), and John and James (v.27-28), and He also warns them about the possibility of being “cast away” (v.25). Why don’t you use Luke 9:25 to understand what Paul means in 1 Corinthians 9:27?

Paul says he exercises self control, so that he walks the talk concerning self control, so that he would not be disqualified or rejected. But by who? In order to be an effective preacher, to have his words accepted, he needs to walk the talk, so Paul may be referring to being rejected as an apostle of Christ, by his audience. Two different Greek words are both translated by the KJV as cast away. But the actual meanings are different, in 1 Corinthians 9:27 the idea of the Greek word translated castaway is rejection. But in Luke 9:25 the idea of a different Greek word is suffer loss.

2.Did the warning in Luke 9:25 still apply to Peter, James and John when Paul wrote 1 Corinthians 9:27?

Christ’s warning concerning the need to take up our cross (sacrifice our self interest) and follow Him is applicable to all believers.

3.If it did not, at what point did the warning that Jesus gave to Peter, James and John in Luke 9:25 cease to apply to them?

Question is moot.

4.Why do you think the Devil would use the NIV to destroy the link between Luke 9:25 and 1 Corinthians 9:27 (by erasing the words castaway, cast away)?

Sometimes fallible humans, trying to serve God and present His message are mistaken. The KJV translated two different words with very different meanings with the same English word. Thus they unintentionally obliterated the distinction made in the original text.

 

Heretical teaching, denying the full provision of the cross of Christ as the basis for our spiritual state before God found in Christ!

Judgement seat of jesus will handle our "judgement" testing of good works, not exclusion from th Millinium!

 

It seems like no one is getting the message. This discussion will lead to someone being banned.

 

good time to have a Mod shut this thread down before danger zone gets reached!

 

I think that is only if someone prosyletizes this awful doctrine.

 

The ban is for those who promote it. So far, all replies have been against the doctrine of Millennial Exclusion.

What is the OP's reason for posting it? Is he for the doctrine? or against?

 

Thanks for clearing that up.

The more I read about that doctrine, the more sad I get for those who are teaching and preaching it.

It is similar to the Catholic's purgatory, except for one detail... the Catholics believe they can be prayed out of purgatory, or pay their own way out. The ME group believes their purgatory is forever their home.

Truly, both are doctrines that take away from the blood sacrifice that was made to purge man from sin.

 

Actually, they don't believe it is permanent, but takes place during the 1000 year Millenial reign (hence the "exclusion"). After the completion they will have "every tear wiped away" and will be restored to the kingdom.

 

Thanks.

At any rate, theirs is a false doctrine.

 

Funny, old J. Frank certainly didn't believe this heresy. And so far I've not met a Fundamentalist who did, though I'm sure they're out there.

 

I've heard of the doctrine before, and specifically of Stanley's version of it. But I didn't know it was called "Millennial Exclusion."

 

Now I remember what M.E. is. Heresy to the core.

I had forgotten I had posted in this thread.

 

It is also known as "Kingdom Exclusion"- seems it has been around for longer than I thought.

Contemporary exponents of this teaching are preceded by the likes of Robert Govett (1813-1901) and Watchman Nee (1902-1972), men who argued that sins committed after a person’s conversion are not covered by the blood of Christ exclusively. At the culmination of the ages, works are necessary for salvation to be complete. For justification of this doctrine, Govett and Nee employ passages relating to “kingdom rewards,” but insisting that rewards are a product of God’s grace, not man’s effort. At the critical moment, however, exclusionists argue that salvation is ultimately accomplished by works.

(http://kingdomexclusion.com/)

Joey Faust was the first that I heard of to promote it. I was shocked to hear that Charles Stanley believed it.

 

Me too, and saddened.