Featured Fighting about fighting- Any hope for us?

Not to worry. Ever heard the old saying, "Baptists multiply by dividing?"

Let's get ready to rumble!

 

Have people ever heard of, agree to disagree! As unfortunately why do they do things the hard way?! And not do things as civilized adults!

 

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Icon, in any links that you have offered and that give scriptures those scriptures have been interpreted through philosophical principles; I am sorry that you can understand that. I have even pointed to their use of it and have indeed refuted waht you have given to back up your beliefs. I realize you that you believe those people who have offered those scriptures with their interpretations have also been inspired with special insights and since you agree with them that makes you right. But, somehow you are missing the value of philosophy and relying on that you believe you have special insights and think of it as something other than your own philosophy.

You claim to use scripture, but when I pin you on your interpretations of those scriptures you simply resort to using poor intertretations from other scriptures rather addressing your problems with your interpretations. I think you believe you can keep from being defeated in an argument that way; because you can resort to saying you only use scriptures, but it doesn't add up that you have put forth a good argument because there is no logical reasoning given to back up your argument that your interpretations are true, hence ...the value of philosophy. I’m not going to chase all your rabbits dude; you wouldn’t admit I caught them anyway if I had their legs tied to a string around my neck while standing in front of the stove cooking rabbit stew.

 

Benjamin,
that is just your excuse to not in fact deal with the verses offered. You just dismiss them because you cannot in reality deal with them at all.
So you jump into this philosophical maze.
recently you post a couple of sections from 1 sam....then you go on and on with speculations that are against clear scriptures.or scriptural principle.

There is a biblical worldview that a christian has. It is scripturally derived out of the scriptures. Not carnally derived from failed human philosophies.
That is what you fail to grasp from my point of view. That is what is different about what you refer to and what I speak of.

Christians start with the word revealed from God.
Carnal philosphy starts with man...fallen man...seeking to re-interpret the reality God as Creator has given us. This is simple but a watershed issue.
We do not agree because you see me as not following your ---philosphical rabbit trails....yet you accuse me of offering scriptural rabbit trails????
if you have scriptural correction offer it.......re-read your own thread...you offer a section or two from 1 sam....then there is no scripture at all in the whole thread......just rambling discussions ,and disputing of words, that are to no profit.

When I offer links from godly teachers you avoid them like an ostritch, or a turtle. Address them scripturally if you can, and I will consider what you offer.

CORRECTION.....In post twenty you inserted two verses one from Gen< one from deut>...I was off by two verses....

 

Icon, have you ever considered that God uses and has used men from Paul to modern day laymen to explain the meaning of scriptures while using philosophical reasoning skills to do so?

You use a defense of constantly calling others carnal, worldly, fallen men, less than Christian etc. when you can not deal with their good reasoning skills against your arguments while you go about to denying you also use reasoning and act as if you are some kind of an inspired prophet that needs no reasoning, whether you admit of not, and this has been pointed out to you many times. I believe you know this to be true and use this behavior just so you can continue to claim to have won an argument.

Your accusations of calling others carnal etc. is common and used against anyone that disagrees with you and that fact is well known on this board and is reprehensible behavior.

I’ll tell you what I don’t understand; it is why you are allowed to continue to use these types of methods of argument on this Christian debate board!

 

I am old enough to know that folks will not always agree, and sometimes they will never agree. This is true in many things, not simply religion. Myself and another lady would talk about American Idol this year at work. She loved Phil Philips who won, I thought that was ridiculous, as a life long musician I can tell you that guy can't carry a tune in a bucket. But he was cute, and the vast majority of voters are young girls, so he won. He still can't sing.

I can accept that many here believe in Calvinism and will never change. Fine. But the problem is, hundreds of non-members read this forum every day. I am not going to sit back and let the Calvinists indoctrinate unsuspecting persons with what I consider false doctrine. So, I constantly try to show why I do not think it is scriptural. I get very tired of it, and do not enjoy it at all, but a person cannot just sit back and let this stuff go on unopposed.

We are supposed to contend for the truth.

 

We had a poll here a few months ago, and the non-Cals outnumbered the Cals by a ratio of nearly 2 to 1. However, new Calvinists have an incredible way of multiplying their appearance of numbers. It's like when your turn to volunteer in the nursery and there are only 2 out of 10 that cry the whole time. At the end you swear there must have 30 crying babies in there!

 

Do you hold that you were a sinner, that you were justly under the wrath and judgement of God?

That you could NOT earn/merit salvation by good works/observing the law as required by God?

that Jesus, Son of God/Messiah, was the lamb of god, whose death provised the means to have God freely justify and saved those who placed faith in him and his work ontheri behalf?

IF you agree to that, regardless Cal/Arm, are we all one in Christ, just differing on the 'fine points?"

 

I think I'm going back to the peace and calm of the IFB's. (no smiley face, I'm serious)

 

I am on guard against error that's why I tried to help you with your critical thinking skills regarding logical reasoning and debate skills.

Study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
(2Ti 2:15)

It really wouldn't hurt if you and Luke were to take a class on basic logic so you guys could reason properly while you're trying to rightly divide that word of truth. :thumbs:

 

:laugh::laugh::laugh: If I need help from you I will let you know.I am sure Luke is also happy you have made this sincere offer! thanks so much

 

Ohhhhh heck. Bush Wackers always say the nicest things .... right before they shoot you.....in the back :laugh: