Here we go again - Bush Cronyism

[Martin]

Terry_Herrington,

You said:
The Bushbots are alive and well on the Baptist Board.

==Sorry but I am not a "Bushbot" I am a "truthbot". The TRUTH is that both sides play the political good ol boy system. Democrats and republicans. Therefore NEITHER side can point fingers at the other. Do you recall what the Lord Himself said? Read and believe Matthew 7:3-5.

Martin.

 

[LadyEagle]

More Bush Cronyism:

http://www.baptistboard.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/1/3980.html

 

[Baptist in Richmond]

Originally posted by ballfan:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Baptist in Richmond:
Notice that, once again, Halliburton is somehow the company that gets a piece of the contract.

Amazing.......

To quote Mr. Zimmerman:
"How many times can a man turn his head, and pretend that he just doesn't see?"

Regards,
BiR

All in all your post is completely meaningless. </font>[/QUOTE]Why, thank you for that, ballfan.
Perhaps you could explain to us how Halliburton is always there when the contracts are awarded. Think about that: they have really been the recipient of some very lucrative contracts since 2000, haven't they?

Do you think that my fellow Republicans wouldn't be all over any company who was consistently awarded contracts if Clinton were in the White House?

To be more direct:
how many times can you turn your head and pretend that you don't see?

Regards,
BiR

 

[Baptist in Richmond]

Originally posted by church mouse guy:
If Kerry had been elected, the Democrats would have had all of their usual suspects in charge.

Greetings CMG,

Could you provide examples for us?

Thanks.

Regards,
BiR

 

[LadyEagle]

BiR

 

[OldRegular]

If I could play the fiddle [that is violin for the sophisticates] I would play a sad tune for all the Bush Bashers on this Forum, "My Heart Cries for You"!

 

[Terry_Herrington]

Originally posted by Martin:
Terry_Herrington,

You said:
The Bushbots are alive and well on the Baptist Board.

==Sorry but I am not a "Bushbot" I am a "truthbot". The TRUTH is that both sides play the political good ol boy system. Democrats and republicans. Therefore NEITHER side can point fingers at the other. Do you recall what the Lord Himself said? Read and believe Matthew 7:3-5.

Martin.

If you believe the things that the Bush administration is saying, you have great difficulty recognizing the truth.

 

[church mouse guy]

Originally posted by Baptist in Richmond:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by church mouse guy:
If Kerry had been elected, the Democrats would have had all of their usual suspects in charge.

Greetings CMG,

Could you provide examples for us?

Thanks.

Regards,
BiR </font>[/QUOTE]Maybe they would have appointed Madeleine Albright again.

 

[Baptist in Richmond]

Originally posted by church mouse guy:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Baptist in Richmond:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by church mouse guy:
If Kerry had been elected, the Democrats would have had all of their usual suspects in charge.

Greetings CMG,

Could you provide examples for us?

Thanks.

Regards,
BiR </font>[/QUOTE]Maybe they would have appointed Madeleine Albright again.

</font>[/QUOTE]Oh, so "Madeleine Albright" is getting, or has already received large lucrative contracts from the government?
Exactly which contracts has she received?
Which contracts has she received in the past?
Did she cash in on something about which we do not know?

And what line of work is she in, anyway?

Regards, CMG,
BiR

 

[Baptist in Richmond]

Originally posted by OldRegular:
If I could play the fiddle [that is violin for the sophisticates] I would play a sad tune for all the Bush Bashers on this Forum, "My Heart Cries for You"!

..........as I would play that song by Mr. Zimmerman for you, OldRegular.

Of course, this discussion is not about Bush, but rather, Halliburton. I went back an re-read my own posts, and cannot find any references that I made to President Bush.

But at the risk of sounding as if I don't appreciate your input, thanks again.

Regards,
BiR

 

[Magnetic Poles]

How fitting OR, as Bush fiddles while the US burns.

 

[OCC]

Originally posted by Martin:
I love how "the left" takes advantage of these type of stories. The "buddy system", as I call it, is a long standing thing. Whether you are talking about government or private businesses people tend to do business with their friends and supporters. I don't care if they are liberal or conservative, republican or democrat. This is the way it is. Like it, love it, or hate it, it is the way it is.

So for every liberal who points a finger at Bush for using the "buddy system" there are several liberals doing the same thing Bush is doing (same for conservatives who point fingers).

When the political types get outraged about the "buddy system" in their own party (and in their own people, and in themselves) then,AND ONLY THEN, will I believe their outrage is sincere. Right now it is nothing more than political spin .

This is the hard truth that both liberals and conservatives need to face. Each side, each political party, plays this game. They point out the faults in the other side while excusing those very same faults in their own side! This is something Christians cannot do. That is why I believe Christians should exit the political scene. WHAT?!? Yes, Christians should exit the political scene. Why? Because the political scene is by its very nature dishonest, hypocritical, and full of compromise. Christians cannot be any of those things (1Cor 6:9-10, Rev 21:8,27, Eph 5:1-7). Am I saying we should not vote? No, we should vote. Am I saying we should not make our "voices" heard? O, we should make a voice heard, but not our voice...the voice of Christ! We should be preaching the Gospel. On every issue we should realize and preach the FACT that the Gospel is the solution (not political games). That is the mission of the church and of Christians...to preach the gospel. Our mission is not social reformation or moral reformation without spiritual regeneration (for that only leads to a worse judgment...2Peter 2:20-22). We should call sin what it is, SIN! We should preach the Gospel without any compromise (those who compromise the gospel are lost- Gal 1:6-9). Our mission, by its very nature, will cause us to have a hard time supporting either political party.

In Christ,
Martin.

Bang on Martin! I didn't even read the rest of the thread...that's all that needs to be said.

 

[carpro]

Halliburton is a truly great American corporation, employing tens of thousand of people at good pay rates, also providing a good retun on the investment of their stockholders.

 

[LadyEagle]

http://www.freepress.org/journal.php?strFunc=display&strID=188&strJournal=24

 

[OldRegular]

Originally posted by Baptist in Richmond:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by OldRegular:
If I could play the fiddle [that is violin for the sophisticates] I would play a sad tune for all the Bush Bashers on this Forum, "My Heart Cries for You"!

..........as I would play that song by Mr. Zimmerman for you, OldRegular.

Of course, this discussion is not about Bush, but rather, Halliburton. I went back an re-read my own posts, and cannot find any references that I made to President Bush.

But at the risk of sounding as if I don't appreciate your input, thanks again.

Regards,
BiR </font>[/QUOTE]BIR

Is it your super ego that makes you think that all posts on this Forum are in response to you or is it that you don't read very well. I might add, for those unfamiliar, that folks from Richmond, Virginia have never been shy when it comes to ego.

If you will read the post on fiddles you will see that it is addressed to the Forum in general, so put a lid on your ego or get some new specs!

 

[OldRegular]

Originally posted by Magnetic Poles:
How fitting OR, as Bush fiddles while the US burns.

Poles, you need some new specs also. I did not say anything about Bush fiddling. That was me playing a sad tune for the Bush Haters, or is it "Bush Bashers". It was your silly OP complaining about the government giving out contracts.

If the government went through the normal contract process it would take months to get reconstruction started. So Bush is not fiddling, its the Bush Haters who are piddling.

 

[carpro]

Originally posted by Baptist in Richmond:
Notice that, once again, Halliburton is somehow the company that gets a piece of the contract.

Amazing.......

To quote Mr. Zimmerman:
"How many times can a man turn his head, and pretend that he just doesn't see?"

Regards,
BiR

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Printable.asp?ID=15426

It is certainly true that during a two year period Halliburton’s revenue from Defense Department contracts doubled. However, that increase in revenue occurred from 1998 to 2000 - during the Clinton administration.

In 1998, Halliburton's total revenue was $14.5 billion, which included $284 million of Pentagon contracts. Two years later, Halliburton’s DoD contracts more than doubled.

SNIP

Neither the Center for Public Integrity nor Factcheck.org determined anything sinister about Halliburton’s no-bid" contracts for the Iraq war. Two nonpartisan, nonaligned, public interest organizations have investigated the Halliburton allegations and found them to be specious allegations made for purely political purposes.

An L.A. Times op-ed of April 22 said, "Halliburton Received No-Bid Contracts During Clinton Administration For Work In Bosnia And Kosovo." An October 2003 article in the (Raleigh, NC) News & Observer quoted Bill Clinton's Undersecretary Of Commerce William Reinsch as saying "'Halliburton has a distinguished track record,' he said. 'They do business in some 120 countries. This is a group of people who know what they're doing in a difficult business. It's a particularly difficult business when people are shooting at you.'"

 

[LadyEagle]

Yep, there is certainly nothing wrong with Halliburton. Just because they have been doing business in Iran all along is just fine. After all, the newly elected president of Iran is allowed to come to the White House and is greeted with open arms. All this paranoia about Iran is just unfounded, too. Everyone loves a globalist.

 

[LadyEagle]

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=46267

 

[church mouse guy]

This is a non-starter. We have had 5 years of this. No one has ever been able to name another company that could have done a better job or that even wanted some of those contracts. Working for Halliburton is very dangerous in Iraq. It is just more Bush Bashing by the Bashing Baptists of the Baptist Board.