thomas15
Well-Known Member
George,
Very well said and same here!
But it always comes down to the covenant a-mils and post-mils making up things to try to discredit the dispies.
Kim Riddlebarger, who is a good writer for a-mil theology in his oft quoted book on the subject writes that as a child he was totally captivated by dispie teachers that he heard on the radio or saw on the tube. Then he grew up and, due to his academic activities, dispensationalism lost it's shine so to speak. So one could say he "smarted" himself out of dispensationalism. But in other places he talks about his lineage and how they were all covenant to the core. So it begs the question, why were his reformed parents letting young Kim get all involved in pie in the sky theology? One could surmise that Dr. Riddlebarger is either taking liberties with reality or that his parents were less than totally diligent in their duties.
To go from a pre-mil dispensational theology to a a-mil or post mil or preterist theology, it is necessary to first embrace covenant theology. This is the real debate. Prove that Jehovah made a covenant of grace, works and/or the optional covenant of redemption and dispensationalism falls apart. But be of good cheer George for the Bible speaks not of these two or three covenants!
Very well said and same here!
But it always comes down to the covenant a-mils and post-mils making up things to try to discredit the dispies.
Kim Riddlebarger, who is a good writer for a-mil theology in his oft quoted book on the subject writes that as a child he was totally captivated by dispie teachers that he heard on the radio or saw on the tube. Then he grew up and, due to his academic activities, dispensationalism lost it's shine so to speak. So one could say he "smarted" himself out of dispensationalism. But in other places he talks about his lineage and how they were all covenant to the core. So it begs the question, why were his reformed parents letting young Kim get all involved in pie in the sky theology? One could surmise that Dr. Riddlebarger is either taking liberties with reality or that his parents were less than totally diligent in their duties.
To go from a pre-mil dispensational theology to a a-mil or post mil or preterist theology, it is necessary to first embrace covenant theology. This is the real debate. Prove that Jehovah made a covenant of grace, works and/or the optional covenant of redemption and dispensationalism falls apart. But be of good cheer George for the Bible speaks not of these two or three covenants!
Wow...The non-dispensationalists in here have gone viral! Going viral is what virus's do:smilewinkgrin:!
Just for the record...I am one dispensationalist that has NEVER read ANY of LaHaye's "Left Behind" books. I don't like mixing truth with fiction. I'm a realist at heart so why would I want to confuse the truth...I just don't see either the value OR the point. I do have some of those books in my library that were given to me by well-meaning friends...but I never read'em.
I prefer good books like THE Good Book!...my trusty old KJV. As for others ...well ...anything by Larkin...and also "Things To Come" by J.Dwight Pentecost and the excellent commentary on Revelation by James W.Knox among others. Skip the fiction...the world has too much of that to offer...give me truth...the kind that the Holy Spirit unveils!
By the way..I'm gonna say one last thing in this post...for anybody to accuse dispensationalists of wanting to assist Jews in returning to their promised homeland JUST SO THEY'LL BE KILLED TO HASTEN THE RETURN OF CHRIST is irresponsible and reprehensible AT THE VERY LEAST. It is despicable and offensive. When the times of tribulation overtake this world AFTER THE CHURCH is taken up (raptured) it won't matter where the Jews ARE (or the Gentiles either) The death and suffering that will overtake the remaining unbelievers in this world will take place on an unprecedented scale. This world has seen some rough stuff but I believe THAT kind of tribulation that has been prophecied is unimaginable. I'm glad the Church won't be here for that. If you don't believe that then I'm sorry for you....truly sorry. If any of us actually got what we were born here deserving we'd all roast in Hell. I have sincere hope that My Lord will spare me of that. Even if I die before the Lord comes...that's OK...death has lost it's sting thanks to Calvary!
Bro.Greg