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The Trinity is limitless and we mortals want limits

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  1. Crabtownboy

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    I ran across the following paragraph today and found it quite interesting and will spend time mulling this thought over. What is your opinion on what L'Engle says?

    There does not seem to be a general theology area to post questions or threads and I did not want to restrict this discussion just to Baptists.


     
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    I can tell you what the facts are. The facts are it sounds a lot like universalism. That facts are there is no scripture provided to justify this man's universalism.
     
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    Madeleine L'Engle was a universalist, hands down. She believed that hell would not be eternal, but limited and that God's love would override an eternal punishment. In that regard, she was wrong.

    I did not know that she had this book, but I am going to buy it for myself for Christmas. Apparently, I just read - she took an actual trip to Antarctica a few years before her death and photographed penguins. The book is about finding God in every thing - nature, family, the Word, and more, but a warning about making these things into icons and exalting them for their sake and not God's sake.

    She was a brilliant secular author for young people. Her Ring of Endless Light, A Wrinkle in Time, and A Swiftly Tilting Planet remain some of my favorites.
     
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    Scarlett, yes, she was a universal salvationist.

    Let me ask a question just for the sake of discussion, not argument, does this mean that in this regard that God is limited?

    She was a very prolific writer. Some of her religious titles are:

    The Rock That is Higher
    Prayers for Sunday
    Walking on Water: Reflections on Faith and Art
    The Glorious Impossible
    Friends For The Journey
    Bright Evening Star: Mystery of the Incarnation

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    Sounds like some kind of Gnosticism along with Universalism, I wouldn't be spending too much time mulling over such thoughts and letting your imagination get carried with them, that's how those "things" get started.
     
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    Universalism does limit God. It limits His justice, holiness, perfection, and it contradicts the Word.
     
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    >Madeleine L'Engle was a universalist, hands down. She believed that hell would not be eternal, but limited and that God's love would override an eternal punishment. In that regard, she was wrong.

    To early to tell! <G>
     
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    I agree that to put limits on the Limitless is heretical.

    However, as a person I definitely NEED limits, but on myself rather than on the Almighty.
     
    #8 Melanie, Dec 12, 2012
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    I completely agree. As humans we all need limits as we live our lives.

    Of course we are limited by time and space. God is not so limited. This makes it impossible for us to completely understand God. We cannot conceive of what life could be like that was limitless. I say that with God I, and other Christians, will have eternal life with God. But none of us really understands what the word eternal really means and all the ramifications of that word.
     
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