Featured John Piper & Bros Paeanize 'The Calvinist'

Thanks for sharing!!!! :thumbs::thumbs::thumbs::godisgood:

 

I prefer Rudyard Kipling or Dylan Thomas for poetry. There is a manly quality there.

 

Propaganda uses many tools. Here we have a poem describing observable behaviors of all Christians, but suggesting they are the domain of Calvinists. Propaganda uses many tools.

 

You gotta watch them evil Calvinist that's for sure, with their scripture, and books, and work ethic, and love for their wife and youngins, they sure are a sneaky bunch.



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But they dont shave Mr Kimball!!!!:BangHead:

 

What???!!!!???? Why those uncouth barbarians!!!!! Next thing you know you'll tell me they don't believe in santy clause!!!!

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P.S. Saw this the other day E,W,F and thought of you!

Kojak's Christmas Wish - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Seo7ATXYvnk

 

Come to think of it, the folks in the video do remind me a lot of my family (except for the urban setting - replace the bus with a pick up, etc.).

Of course me, my wife, and little girl are just a tad bit better lookin. :thumbs:

 

Calvinists use all the tools of propaganda, they disparage others to undercut truth, they put ungodly motives forth for any disagreement, and of course they ridicule others using strawman arguments.

The same artsy film could have been titled "The Arminian." But with either title, it remains propaganda, rather than an effort to enlighten. What did Jesus say? Who gets to sit nearest to Jesus? What does scripture actually teach on the subject?

 

The only little girls I see is this "Nearly Dead Poets Society" are the ones narrating this dung.....The Calvinist ..... give me a brake. PIPER needs to go get his testosterone checked. :laugh:

 

As usual, I have no idea what your point is.

 

Im still trying to figure out how you pegged this guy as a "hipster". Did that come from you?

Yes I agree......this is Puff'ish & slanted. Im not a Calvinist so what are they saying here, that the Calvinists are something Im not? Trust me though, my nose isn't bent out of shape & if these folks want to narrate something like this Artsy/Fartsy nonsense than fine with me.

Personally, Im much more concerned with the FULLERITE Leanings that have been displayed as of late.

 

You mean Fullerism? How have these been displayed as of late?

 

Yes....thats correct, Fullerism. And Im not even sure I am correct but, if you will recall I was quoting Sinclair Ferguson who was "misquoting" Samuel Rutherford in the statement, " The reprobate has exactly the same warrant to believe in Jesus Christ as do the Elect" .....but as you know that doesn't square with Doctrines of Grace theology. So I wondered what does he mean?

Willis (convicted) did some investigating & discovered it to be in fact a misquote & he corrected me.....from Convicted:

I found a site where Samuel Rutherford addressed this very topic. The quote you're using, Brother Steve, is a paraphrase by Ebenezer Erskine, and not by Rutherford himself. Rutherford stated on page 442 that "Christ gave Himself for so many, as many as we are to pray for, but we are to pray for all without exception". He further states this; "We are to think God willeth so many to be saved, and His Son to give Himself a ransom for so many, as we are warranted to pray for, that they may be saved, but we are not warranted to pray for all, and everyone that may be saved, but only for the elect. Ergo, God will only have them to be saved, and His Son to give Himself a ransom for them only. Pg 442.

books.google.com/books?id=hE8rAAAAYAAJ&dq=%22Reprobate%22%20elect%20warrant%20%22%20rutherford&pg=PA510#v=onepage&q&f=false

So it just got me thinking and then reading articles like this, mostly about this Fullerism movement (supposedly infiltrating the Calvinists) .... see attached:

http://peterlumpkins.typepad.com/pe...fullerism-or-calvinism-by-peter-lumpkins.html

 

I'm not sure what he means/meant. I addressed this to you when you mentioned it saying I didn't agree with it myself. It's sentimentalism and not Scripture and I don't believe in it for a second. You defended this in the past because of who misquoted him, but it's good to see you've changed your position.

So in essence you were actually accepting of Fullerism yourself (unknowingly), because that is what the quote is reflecting.

Good job Willis. :thumbsup:

I'll check it out.

 

Yes....the comment/quote was actually stated by Sinclair Ferguson with RC Sproul there supporting it.....I may still have a copy of it somewhere on my PC because I had to replay it a number of times in order to get the concept. & tour correct....if two leaders of Reformed Theology are matter of factly saying it.....

Nope.....and I didnt even know what it was....that is why I kept bringing it up, mostly because it confused me. But this is what happens when one is conflicted. I would have continued digging till I got to the truth & thats the strength of the brotherhood.....they challenge you.

Lastly, here is an article done by the Old School Baptists on FULLERISM

http://www.oldschoolbaptist.org/Articles/Calvinism.Arminianism.Fullerism.htm

 

I've already read that link, beat ya to it. :smilewinkgrin:

And why do you have Satan Claws as your avatar? :laugh:

As I told my wife, if we see some dude in our house on Christmas eve with a sack over his shoulder, shoot him with the p938, or maybe even the Ruger Super Redhawk 'cause he ain't makin' no delivery!