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Agreed. Roush, overall, is behind HMS, JGR, Penske and SHR. Carl might be a good enough driver to win a championship, but the cars aren't.

Such nonsense. Junior's never lacked for talent or stones.

Perhaps you should actually watch the races before saying this. Did you watch Jimmie dominate the last 2 races? The #48 team has been behind most of the season, but they've caught up on the rules changes and perhaps moved ahead of everybody else again. We're all tired of seeing Jimmie in Victory Lane, but he's going to make at least 2 or 3 more visits before the season's out. 7th championship is not out of the question.

Perhaps they'll have their issues sorted by September. Even if they don't, Harvick joins the group of Johnson, Gordon, Earnhardt, Logano and Kes as legitimate championship contenders.

 

Nope. They've only run 13 races this year so far. Try and keep up.

I really shouldn't have to spell this out, but so be it.

Say this before the World 600 and you're 100% correct. Say it after Dover and it makes you look like you don't know what you're talking about.

 

Spare me the picture. I'm not the one who doesn't know what he's talking about.

You can't say that Jimmie's won "only" 2 races out of 36, when they've only run 13! That's asinine. Besides, 2 wins ain't diddly squat? Again, you have no idea what you're talking about. 2 wins is a great season for every driver except for the elite drivers like JJ, Jeff Gordon and Tony Stewart.

You're going on record that the 6-time champion, after dominating the last 2 races, can't keep winning? What, exactly, leads you to say something like this? This is, once again, where you show that you just don't know what you're talking about. If I were a betting man, I'd put my next mortgage payment up saying that Jimmie's going to have at least 1 more win before this season is over. That's the easiest money I'd ever make.

Before Charlotte, Jimmie had 3 Top 5's, 6 Top 10's and had led 7 of 11 races. Those are good numbers, but they're not Jimmie Johnson-type numbers, thus all the hand-wringing before Charlotte about how Jimmie "struggled".

We're not talking about baseball. You cannot compare batting average in baseball to wins in racing. They are not comparable stats.

No, it doesn't. Through all Jimmie's so-called struggles, he's been anywhere from 4th to 8th in the points all season.

I'm not buying anything from you, because you don't know what you're talking about. You swallowed the media reports that Jimmie has "struggled" and you didn't bother to verify. You don't watch the races to know better and then you come here and pretend to know something. Please either stop posting about things you don't know about, or go educate yourself.

 

So, the debate is now whether Jimmie wins the championship? Just keep moving the target until you find one you like, I guess.

Why would you mention such a thing? Isn't it just a wee bit crass to bring up this up at the end of a debate? If I didn't know better, I'd think you were subtly questioning my salvation, but doing such is against the rules of this board and will get you banned. Since I don't have another alternative to choose from, the only reason I can think of as to why you'd bring this up is in an attempt to smear my character, my faith, etc. Thus, here's your fair warning in return.

The next time I see a statement or question from you that has anything to do with my salvation, I will be reporting the post.

 

But, but, but, they do go right sometimes, Jon! Sometimes they go right into the wall! They run at 2 tracks that have right turns! See? :wavey:

 

Actually, on further review, you're right. We went off topic in talking about Jimmie Johnson winning races, and your still inexplicable to me comments dismissing 2 wins as though they were nothing, but you're correct, it was about winning a championship.

 

I'm afraid so. I'll be Bobby Allison in this scenario.

"I got out of the car and then he went to beating on my fists with his nose."

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