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Discussion in 'Calvinism & Arminianism Debate' started by Inspector Javert, Jun 23, 2014.

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  1. Inspector Javert

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    Once again I would like to thank God that he predestined me to be a non-Cal. Praise the Lord! Hallelujah!
     
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    Inspector Javert
    here is your posting on this thread;

    1]I can only assume you didn't so let me make sure your own statements sink into your thick skull...

    2]it's simply that you either: Understand NOTHING about Calvinism

    3]Are being deliberately obtuse

    4] I won't state this option out loud.....

    5]Let me explain the fundamentals of Calvinism and election according to Calvinism to you since you don't get them

    6]I see you still need more tutoring into the fundamentals of Calvinism

    7]You don't know the first thing about Calvinism do you Icon?

    8]You don't understand the implications of the confession.....Or you are simply refusing to accept them.

    9]If you find their answers "telling"...than you clearly don't understand Calvinism...as I could have told you that much from the get-go

    10]since you aren't following

    11]Grow up

    12]Yes, I know the implications Icon...YOU DON'T
     
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    you are not trying to help...you are not being coherent.


    Here is what I actually said...pay attention...I will explain how to understand a sentence.....

    I posted this;

    [individual Election unto salvation is a biblical truth]

    You said I posted this-
    I did not say..."One could be elected" unto salvation...you inserted those wordsare you going to DHK's school of how to post on a message board...put words into someones post when you cannot prevail:laugh:

    then I said;
    ......[ do you believe the gospel is another question altogether]

    you said it this way....
    and that one could fail to "believe the gospel"...
    this is incoherent on your part.

    I just did and it shows frustration and confusion of mind from your keyboard.

    only in your mind friend....you have avoided the issue...




    So...what God decrees is "certain"...I'll buy that.

    .

    sure it matters....God knows all the elect by name...from the human side..you do not.

    I suspect you have other problems to deal with.
     
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    Icon, what I was referring to was two semantically equivalent statements:

    If you say:
    "Individual Election to salvation"
    and I quote it as:
    "Being elect to salvation".....

    It's semantically equivalent.

    You are getting in a tizzy about my quoting you in the active voice something you quoted in the passive voice.

    That's not how adults converse Icon.

    What I said was semantically equivalent, and I quoted you accurately. It's there for anyone to see. I detect that all you care about is "winning" some kind of argument with someone who is not a Calvinist...If I were contending that the sky is blue, you would debate it, because I'm not a Calvinist. If I argue that grass is (only when heathy) generally green, you would argue that "Kentucky 'Blue-grass' appears more bluish and not green." Have it your way....You'd argue with me if I debated that 2+2=4.....So here you go:

    You win Icon. I'm wrong, you're right, and I shouldn't have said what I said.
     
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    We are saved due to us already bein g the Elect from/of God, not that once we got saved, then we become the Elect!
     
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    :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

    What do Calvinist think of God ordaining millions to be non-cals????
     
    #11 steaver, Jun 24, 2014
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    Don't know if it is not a case where the bethren have hardened themselves off to it first though!
     
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    What???? :eek:

    Brethren resisting God!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Brethren defeating the will of God!!!!!!!

    Brethren changing the predestination/ordination of God!!!!! No wait, that doesn't make any sense...............
     
    #13 steaver, Jun 25, 2014
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