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Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by righteousdude2, Jun 24, 2014.

  1. Zaac

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    It's sad. People are just that angry C4K. They say they are not. But they are. And if you visit a lot of Baptist churches, you will hear the political and issue driven rhetoric that keeps the people of God revved up about politics rather than about seeing people saved and pointed to Christ.

    Scripture continues to show itself true in principle and act.

    Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, Matt. 24:12

    As many in the church continue to unrepentantly sin, the evident decrease in love is becoming overwhelming.
     
  2. Bro. Curtis

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    Name some you have visited, and tell us what they have said.
     
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    What frightens the establishment most, I think, is that the American people have become active participants in their own national environment once again. At Bundy ranch, they stopped asking for mercy, they stopped begging the system to police itself, they stopped waiting for the rigged elections, and they stopped relying on useless legal avenues to effect change. Rather, they took matters into their own hands and changed the situation on the ground on their own. For oligarchy, this development is unacceptable, because one success could lead to many.

    Already, we are beginning to hear whispers of possible Federal retribution against those who participated in the confrontation.

    This has been cemented within the efforts of a new task force against “domestic terrorism” organized by none other than Eric “Fast and Furious” Holder.

    After the recent exposure of Barack Obama’s Department of Defense Directive 3025.18, we now know that since at least 2010, the White House has been setting the stage for the use of military force against “domestic threats.” That is to say, for at least the past four years our government has been quietly maneuvering toward martial law. It’s been happening for much longer if you count George W. Bush’s Presidential Decision Directive 51, which has yet to befully declassified.

    The exposure of Directive 3025.18 also came with information that the Obama Administration considered using it as a way to activate military forces and drones against the Bundy ranch. The burning question is, of course, why didn’t it? The Federal government is not known for its diplomacy in the face of a defiant citizenry. Waco and Ruby Ridge made that clear. I believe that it was not necessarily the people on the ground at Bunkerville, Nev., that they were most worried about. The terrain is admittedly a terrible place to mount a defense against a mechanized horde of jackboots.

    No, what the White House feared was a larger response to such an attack. It feared the millions of patriots who would swarm down from all sides if it committed to a Ruby Ridge-style siege. It feared the reality that this time, Americans were not going to sit back and watch another family be slaughtered on national television. It feared the fact that it didn’t have the moral high ground in the public eye and that a kinetic failure on its part would be met with cheers, rather than tears, from much of the populace.

    So where does this leave us?

    http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/a-second-american-revolution-is-now-inevitable_06112014
     
  4. thisnumbersdisconnected

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    BINGO!! One way or another, this country is removed from the international seat of power in order for God's will for judgment and justice to be carried out.

    I'd rather live in a minor, free country for a few years than to live under a totalitarian regime until the Rapture, thank you.
     
  5. NaasPreacher (C4K)

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    And what is going to keep your minor free country from from invasion as foreign powers ally with your former countrymen?

    I can't imagine a worse idea for America than an internal war that everyone would lose.
     
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  6. righteousdude2

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    :thumbs::applause::applause:
     
  7. righteousdude2

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    My response to the sublime!

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    Take that, Zaac -
     
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    Good point, but take it further ....

    We are NO longer represented in local government or state government!
     
  9. righteousdude2

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    You took the words out of my mouth ....

    Yes, Zaac, you said, now give us proof. Name names, and give us quotes.

    I don't think you have visited any churches, sir, and I think you are embellishing once again, similar to how you hyperbolize about the morality of those on this board!

    So, the challenge is down, and the clock is ticking, tell us, or be branded as someone grasping at straws to make your point seem more powerful! Well .... "tick-tock!" :wavey:
     
  10. righteousdude2

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    Let me ask you this, C4K ....

    What is going to guarantee our protection from a foreign power taking over America in the here and now? This administration is so lame and so weak, we are being invaded now from the south and no onw, and I mean no one in DC is willing to enforce the laws of immigration for the purpose of protecting us from this invasion!

    And it is an invasion.
     
  11. NaasPreacher (C4K)

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    So some folks really, truly believe that millions of dead Americans and the splintering of the nation is better than the current state of affairs?

    Really?
     
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    C4K, was the U.S. formed fraudulently ?
     
  13. righteousdude2

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    Me thinks .....

    ..... that the votes are being bought by giving the entitled what they want or crave, in turn giving the party that will keep the entitlements alive and well will be the one they vote for!

    I think a lot of Americans are disappointed in voting. Money and politics are keeping the dead wood in office, while getting fresh blood in office is like a snail running for it's life! It ain't happening! It is beginning to look like the deck is stacked in favor of the house, and even when we hae one victory at the polls, one person will not have a chance against the other hundred or the veto power of a POTUS! Even the SCOTUS, strikes down attempts to make changes, saying they are unconstitutional!

    I think America is not only divided, it is frustrated and no longer hopeful.

    Although, C4K, I agree with you about a destructive revolution. I watched with interest the television series, Jericho, a few years back, and see this happening in America.
     
  14. NaasPreacher (C4K)

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    I don't think Jericho was too far off in depicting what would happen in an internal war, especially if nuclear weapons were involved.
     
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    You think a foreign power such as China or Russia will be interested in "invading" a four-, six- or 10-state consortium of formerly United States? What on earth for? It would be unnecessary. We would pose no threat to them that could not be resolved by trade agreements and treaties.

    Here's another newsflash for you: No country in the world can afford hegemony anymore.
    This statement sickens me, C4K. If, regardless of how destructive war is, the alternative to such a fight is to submit to totalitarianism, and yours is the prime personal reaction among American citizens, we've already lost. Destruction has already occurred. The American spirit lies dying in the middle of the street, mugged by criminals, and no one cares.

    Tell you what. You sit back in your easy chair in Ireland and let us handle it for you, OK? Maybe we'll even give you a passport to visit when it's over.

    Don't count on it, though.
     
  16. NaasPreacher (C4K)

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    If this horrendous scenario plays out I won't have a 'country' I want to return to.

    I'd be happy with my Irish passport since any petty American nation would be no more influential and not worth returning to.

    It would not be the America I still love and where I cherish my citizenship.

    I'd hardly want a passport for the Tea Party Republic.
     
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  17. righteousdude2

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    Let me ask you C4K ....

    How long have you been out of the states? Have you seen, and I mean actually seen what is going on here?

    We have a POTUS that is avoiding the Constitution ... forcing unpopular programs down our throats, and driving up our debt by the day!

    He swore to protect this country from enemies both foreign and domestic, yet he has sat back and allowed illegal immigrants for countries around this world to come here with no repercussion for their actions.

    His inaction at the border has resulted in Mexicans running through our streets, waving the flag of their homeland, Mexico! These people have become politically and legally complacent to American laws, witnessed in their demands that America and Americans accept them and forget they broke laws to get here.

    America has more people on wlefare than earning a check, and even if those who truly want to save America go to the polls and vote, we are being voted down by a national community of socialists that Obama created over the last 8 years.

    He has gained the full support of all those Americans who are afraid they might lose some or all entitlements. He has the loyalty of the same sex marriage group, again afraidn that a conservative group and POTUS might change the laws. He has the support of all those illegal immirgrants who have somehow found a way to steal identities and vote. And he has the support of 90% of the black community.

    Anyone that follows Obama and the DNC will in fact vote for a Democrat to protect the changes they believe they may lose if a conservative POTUS and Congress come into power.

    The community organizer has organized a strong community of support, and it may take years, decades, to get a majority to vote these socialists out of office.

    Exercizing out franchise is not going to bring about the kind of change to save America, at least anytime soon! So, when Obama came into office in 2008, we had a divided nation, not it is divided and extremely frustrated, and we are on the edge of civil unrest. I don't know what you remembered of America when you left for Ireland, but the America we have today has changed in a bad way, and when frustration alond with a strong divide set in, the frustrated usually set out to make a change, even if it means losing life and property.

    I see more people than ever willing to fight, and if that means war, so be it, to overthrow this socialist mindset ruining America!
     
  18. NaasPreacher (C4K)

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    So we are discussing warfare to overthrow freely elected government officials and thereby refusing to accept the will of the electorate?
     
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    What a joke!! The election was stolen through lies and obfuscation concerning Benghazi, Fast & Furious, the IRS scandal, and others, and very likely voter fraud! There was nothing "free" about that election!! You're being willfully blind to the facts, and as such deserve whatever happens to your "country" -- one that stopped being what you think it is six years ago.
    More garbage which is the result of faulty thinking based on your erroneous assumption from the first half of that quote.

    You just don't get it, do you? You have no idea what it means to defend your nation, stand in the gap for an ideal, a heritage, a spirit, for which blood has been shed for over 200 years -- including mine, C4K ... including mine!!!, only to watch it be mugged, beaten, and left dying in the streets by criminals, men of a different ideology, a failed ideology that is being retreated from around the world -- except in the nation of which you speak fearfully but obviously do not understand. Likely never did.

    What do you think of Jefferson's statement to William Stephens Smith? He wrote, "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is it’s natural manure."

    You don't understand that attitude, do you? You actually fear the consequences of freedom, liberty and democracy. You have abdicated your responsibilities as an American, C4K. Do us a favor: Stay where you are. Apply for citizenship there. You've become them, not us.
     
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  20. NaasPreacher (C4K)

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    One thing I do know. This kind of intolerance for divergent views is indeed not part of the America I treasure and it is what I most fear in what will be left of America if these wars come.
     
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