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Um... no. You've made the claims--unsubstantiated. You've offered no citations, etc. You've offered nothing but your opinion. In a court of law, you'd be laughed at for asking a defendant to prove your opinion wrong.

You've made the claim. Give proof or drop it.

The Archangel

 

Oooo........Any bells going off in your head about now Brother???? :laugh:

 

Not really. Which ones should be going off?

The Archangel

 

OK, maybe he just loves you & wants to straighten you out. Good luck with that. :smilewinkgrin::smilewinkgrin:

 

AA....before Tom Smith and Jon Zens , John Resinger in the early 80's....who would you point to that would have opposed the formerly held confessions of faith on the teaching concerning the moral law?

I think we will differ on this to some extent, although some of your comments to not seem like those written in [reformation today] jons zens, Looking for the Imperative

Some of what I have seen you express seems to be closer to the historic position as I have seen it explained.

As I have said before, I enjoy and learn from most things you post.
This is one area I believe we would perhaps have a difference.

If it is not a hot button issue for you, perhaps you could think of a link that I could look over that you believe gives food for thought here.

I know that ultimately what scripture says is where we must wind up, but are you thinking of Anabaptists. or someone else before the modern guys jumped into the fray?

 

AA....Perhaps a new thread on New Covenant Theology is in order....since you are the expert here....hint, hint.

 

Reformed, I agree with you.

The Holy Spirit has alway been applying the work of the Son to us. Christ died, but the Spirit makes that a reality to us, and He makes that work fruitful in us.

The Holy Spirt uses tools to get His work accomplished. These are means. Baptism and The Lords Supper are means that The Spirt uses to make the work of Christ both real and fruitful in our lives. The Spirt does not zap us and make us into zombies, He works in our lives to bring about Christ-likeness.

We don't believe preaching to be mystical or magical; however, we do understand that more is happening than meets the eye. We know that as God's word is preached the invisible work of the Spirt has also begun.

In the very same way, baptism and TLS are not magic, but The Spirit of God uses each to apply the gospel to us and to make us fruitful.

 

The rift that splintered the fledgling 'Reformed Baptist' movement some years ago was cast as being about sabbatarianism, but it was mostly a manufactured controversy by certain Reformed Baptist leaders to deflect attention from the growing criticism of their own extreme authoritarianism:

http://solochristo.com/theology/Church/reiwh.htm

 

So... It's "Thin-skinned" to ask you to substantiate your claims? Absurd.

The Archangel

 

It is--actually--ridiculous to make unsubstantiated claims without citing anything other than your own opinion.

That's not thin-skinned; it's keeping you honest. But, then I too digress...

The Archangel

 

I would, but not in this thread. The suggestion was made to start a new thread--which I think is more apropos here.

The Archangel

 

That should be a good and timely discussion in light of the openly antinomian views being offered by several on here. I think it will touch aon several areas of theology that need to be investigated.:applause::applause::applause::thumbsup: