Featured Okay you bible exegeters...

....exegete these two verses and tell me what these verses explain.

He who justifies the wicked, and he who condemns the just,
Both of them alike are an abomination to the Lord.[Prov. 17:15]


to demonstrate at the present time His righteousness, that He might be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus.[Rom. 3:26]

Both of these are from the NKJV.

 

DING DING DING DING!!! Bro. Paul Washer preached a sermon about this. He laid it out in pretty much the same manner as you did. If God forgives the unjust who were justly condemned, then He has violated His own character, violated one of His own attributes. If He let the unjust go free, He is no better than those ascribed to Pro. 17:15. Ergo, the need to truly show that true faith comes from God and not man's innateness. Christ bore the full wrath of God by taking their sins upon Himself, drank the cup of the wrath of God, thereby satisfying God's justice, thereby being able to justify the ungodly.

If people do not grasp what propitiation truly entails, that faith is not innate in man, is truly a God-given gift, then they do not understand the gospel...the gospel which saves sinners from their sins.

 

I would love to give you post TCassidy 10,000,000,000,000 likes.

 

Bro. Glen, I think TCassidy's part stating on man's part is spot on, in my opinion. Remember faith given, faith received, became ours and we exercised faith and repentance after regeneration. So we do exercise faith and repentance after His quickening us.

 

Glad to be of assistance, Monsieur. People who disagree with our point of view accuse us of not believing 'your faith has saved you,' or 'your faith has healed you.' It is our faith that we exercise(d) when we were saved. However, it takes the quickening, regenerative power of God's Spirit, that brought us to life. In that quickening, faith and repentance are exercised. So, yes, God gives, grants us, faith and repentance. We exercise it in Him saving us.

 

DING DING DING DING DING!!!

 

Going to have to disagree with you, kyredneck. If God forgives sinners without His wrath being appeased, then He has violated His word, and character concerning justice and wrath.

Bro. Paul Washer used this scenario that proves what I am trying to convey. You come home to a man who has murdered his family. You catch him, call the police, and they take him to jail. Months later a judge says he is a loving judge and forgives him and sets the guilty free. No one paid the penalty of his crime...sin, and he was set free. So freedom of sin came without anyone paying the penalty.

Look at Christ as He interceced on our behalf. He took our sins upon Himself, drank the cup of God's wrath, and paid for it by giving His life 'a ransom for many.' If Christ had not died in our stead, God could not forgive sinners of their sins, and not violate His word and character of justice.

 

He who justifies the wicked, and he who condemns the just,
Both of them alike are an abomination to the Lord.[Pro. 17:15]

to demonstrate at the present time His righteousness, that He might be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus[Rom. 3:26]

Look @ Proverbs 17:15. If any man justifies the wicked, they are an abomination in His sight. If God justifies a sinner without the effacacious works of Christ, then He has violated His word, His attribute of being just. Ergo, Christ coming as a man, the God-man, who 'will save His people from their sins.' This debunks the innateness of faith.

So by stacking these two verse together, it gives a clearer glimpse at how God justifies sinners.

 

It is Proverbs 17:15 and not 17:5.