1. Welcome to Baptist Board, a friendly forum to discuss the Baptist Faith in a friendly surrounding.

    Your voice is missing! You will need to register to get access to all the features that our community has to offer.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

Featured Which Bible Verses are Ripped Out of Context Most and Applied to Everything?

Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by InTheLight, Dec 8, 2015.

  1. InTheLight

    InTheLight Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Dec 17, 2010
    Messages:
    24,988
    Likes Received:
    2,268
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Which Bible verses do you consider to be the most frequently taken out of context and applied to just about everything? Our pastor just finished up a six month series on the book of Phillipians and it contains one of the most, if not the most misquoted, taken out of context verses ever.

    I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me. Phillipians 4:13

    This is used by just about anyone that has some sort of job or function that requires a degree of difficulty or adversity. Athletes, students, soldiers, etc. The verse is about Christians being content no matter what their circumstances, and is not about being able to do super human things requiring physical strength.

    Runner up:
    Judge not, that you be not judged. Matthew 7:1

    Used by people as a way to tell anyone that might disagree with them not to judge them about anything.


    Notable others:
    But I tell you not to resist an evil person. But whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn the other to him also. Matt. 5:39

    "For I know the plans I have for you,” declares the Lord, “plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future". Jeremiah 29:11
     
  2. TCassidy

    TCassidy Late-Administator Emeritus
    Administrator

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2005
    Messages:
    20,080
    Likes Received:
    3,491
    Faith:
    Baptist
    The most misunderstood verse is the bible: John 3:16.
     
    • Agree Agree x 4
  3. InTheLight

    InTheLight Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Dec 17, 2010
    Messages:
    24,988
    Likes Received:
    2,268
    Faith:
    Baptist
    I don't think so. It's one of the most understandable verses in the Bible. Simplicity.

    And I don't want to get into a Cal/non-Cal debate over it.
     
    • Like Like x 2
  4. TCassidy

    TCassidy Late-Administator Emeritus
    Administrator

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2005
    Messages:
    20,080
    Likes Received:
    3,491
    Faith:
    Baptist
    If you think it is that simple you are one of those who fail to understand it.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  5. Rob_BW

    Rob_BW Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2015
    Messages:
    4,324
    Likes Received:
    1,246
    Faith:
    Baptist
    • Like Like x 1
    • Agree Agree x 1
  6. Marooncat79

    Marooncat79 Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2014
    Messages:
    3,643
    Likes Received:
    642
    Faith:
    Baptist
    II Chronicles 7:14. It has nothing to do with the good ole USA. It is about the covenant relationship w the Nation of Israel in the OT


    Greater love hath no man than this that a man lay down his life for his brother. It is a statement that Jesus is making About Himself. He is the one who came to lay down His life for us. It has nothing to do with a soldier in a foxhole
     
    • Like Like x 3
    • Agree Agree x 1
  7. DMorgan

    DMorgan Member

    Joined:
    Oct 9, 2014
    Messages:
    79
    Likes Received:
    9
    Would you elaborate please!
     
    • Like Like x 1
  8. InTheLight

    InTheLight Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Dec 17, 2010
    Messages:
    24,988
    Likes Received:
    2,268
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Yes, agreed.
     
  9. TCassidy

    TCassidy Late-Administator Emeritus
    Administrator

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2005
    Messages:
    20,080
    Likes Received:
    3,491
    Faith:
    Baptist
    I would be happy to. I am glad you asked. :)

    Most people understand the verse to be saying "God loved the world so much that He gave His only begotten Son that whoever believes in Him will not perish but have everlasting life."

    Unfortunately, most people are wrong. :)

    The actual meaning of the verse is "God, in this way, loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son that whoever believes in Him will not perish but have everlasting life."

    God's love for the world is personified in His Son. To reject the Son is to reject the love of God. :)

    Most English speakers have forgotten that "so" can mean "in this manner." We still occasionally use it that way when we say, "In order to do that you have to do so and so" as we explain the actions necessary.
     
    • Agree Agree x 2
    • Like Like x 1
  10. Iconoclast

    Iconoclast Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2010
    Messages:
    21,242
    Likes Received:
    2,305
    Faith:
    Non Baptist Christian
  11. kyredneck

    kyredneck Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2009
    Messages:
    20,493
    Likes Received:
    3,043
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Jn 3:16 is a statement of fact, not an invitation.
     
    • Agree Agree x 3
  12. Marooncat79

    Marooncat79 Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2014
    Messages:
    3,643
    Likes Received:
    642
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Agree II Ptr 3:9 is God's promise to save the "elect" feom every nation and tongue. It is not a promise to literally save everyone. If God decreed that "all men" meaning iterally everyone who ever lived to be saved then there would be no hell-all men would be saved without exclusion
     
    • Agree Agree x 2
    • Like Like x 1
  13. kyredneck

    kyredneck Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2009
    Messages:
    20,493
    Likes Received:
    3,043
    Faith:
    Baptist


    Agree:

    14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up;
    15 that whosoever believeth may in him have eternal life. Jn 3

    8 And Jehovah said unto Moses, Make thee a fiery serpent, and set it upon a standard: and it shall come to pass, that every one that is bitten, when he seeth it, shall live. Nu 21

    Note that the brazen serpent was lifted up for those that were bitten.

    .........They that are whole have no need of a physician, but they that are sick: I came not to call the righteous, but sinners. Mk 2:17

    6 Blessed are they that hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled. Mt 5

    It is the Spirit working within His children that causes them to feel their need for the Savior.

    Note that God has ALREADY wrought within those that come to the light:

    21 But he that doeth the truth cometh to the light, that his works may be made manifest, that they have been wrought in God. Jn 3

    That's what Christ was telling Nicodemus. Before one can enter, or even see the kingdom of God he must FIRST be born from above.
     
    #13 kyredneck, Dec 8, 2015
    Last edited: Dec 8, 2015
    • Like Like x 1
    • Agree Agree x 1
  14. Benjamin

    Benjamin Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Oct 6, 2004
    Messages:
    8,438
    Likes Received:
    1,171
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Always amazes me to see the enthusiasm to diminish true hope of salvation for all in the world. Especially this time of year. But for any lurkers who might be reading this thread and are about to witness the Doctrines of the Specially Pre-selected Lucky Few for Grace dogma which typically goes into high gear on this board this time of year:

    The entire Bible, the Word in whole, in fact is a means of light given unto all in the world by a God of Love and the truths within it for which He sacrificed His Son, Jesus, amounts to a genuine invitation of mercy and grace for “whosoever” believes and loves the truth of His words.

    (Joh 1:9) That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.

    …I'm afraid the above doctrine of grace may not be as big and inclusive as the doctrine of grace that I preach. ;)

    But here is the truth:

    (Rom 10:9) That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.


    (Rom 10:10) For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.


    (Rom 10:11) For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.


    (Rom 10:12) For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.


    (Rom 10:13) For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.


    Merry Christmas to all!


    Carry on…
     
    • Like Like x 3
    • Agree Agree x 1
  15. JonC

    JonC Moderator
    Moderator

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2001
    Messages:
    35,198
    Likes Received:
    3,791
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Proverbs 21:19....or is that that most often applicable but least quoted verse?.....I can't remember. :)
     
  16. JonShaff

    JonShaff Fellow Servant
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2015
    Messages:
    2,954
    Likes Received:
    425
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Why is every thread a "shove Calvinism down your throat" thread? My Goodness.
     
    • Like Like x 1
    • Agree Agree x 1
  17. Rippon

    Rippon Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Dec 12, 2005
    Messages:
    19,715
    Likes Received:
    585
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Well, if we aren't allowed to quote Bible verses which back up the doctrines of grace then I feel pity for your position.
    I put "MG" right there with "OMG".

    Instead it should be: Oh my imputed goodness.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  18. JonShaff

    JonShaff Fellow Servant
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2015
    Messages:
    2,954
    Likes Received:
    425
    Faith:
    Baptist
    I would expect a Pharisee to respond In like manner.

    Sent from my SPH-L720 using Tapatalk
     
    • Like Like x 1
  19. Rippon

    Rippon Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Dec 12, 2005
    Messages:
    19,715
    Likes Received:
    585
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Yes, I agree with you. This has been one of the most abused passages. That's largely due to how it has been mistranslated.

    It should be something like :"I can do all these things through him who gives me strength."

    Just what are "these things" you may ask? Why what has been listed in verses 11-12.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  20. Rippon

    Rippon Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Dec 12, 2005
    Messages:
    19,715
    Likes Received:
    585
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Since I do not brag about "my goodness" and attribute any goodness perceived in my person to Christ who has imputed his righteousness to me I fail to see how my response is pharisaical.
     
    #20 Rippon, Dec 8, 2015
    Last edited: Dec 9, 2015
    • Like Like x 1
Loading...