Fundamentalist View On Dallas Theological Seminary Professors

bingo!

 

I look at it in the context of the Trinity. Unless the atonement is particular & effective then we have really destroyed unity & harmony of the Trinity. Then you would be saying that the members of the Trinity don't quite know what they are doing. The Father has chosen the Elect......but the Son has died for All ......and the HS has managed to apply the Atoning Work of Christ to some????? What a flipping scrum that would be.

 

Actually I view it as definite atonement. What the Arminian has is truly limited in the sense of indefinite.

 

I was just suggesting that most of them on staff there would themselves call them 4 pointers, as they would hold to unlimited atonement, and agree with other 4 points!

There is a theological term for being a 4 pointer though also!

 

Alas Tom, your reasoning and logic is human reasoning and logic.

The reason we cannot cogitate correctly as God does is because His thoughts are beyond our capacity to even find out. e.g. We are unable to think eternal thoughts but are limited to a beginning and an end.

Isaiah 55
8 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD.
9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.

The heavens are infinite.

I have no doubt whatsoever that salvation is all of God and none of us.

Thank you for the Ephesians passage.

So do we really need a mortal flesh being to tell us that 1500 years after the greatest display of grace in the universe of that fact?

Christ, the prophets and apostles inspired of the Holy Spirit told us that beforehand.

Hebrews 1:1 God, who at various times and in various ways spoke in time past to the fathers by the prophets,
2 has in these last days spoken to us by His Son, whom He has appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the worlds;

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Ephesians 2
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

HankD

 

I didn't mean God, I meant Calvin but I think you knew that

HankD

 

Ops, took a wrong path trying to determine who tiptoes thru the TULIPS at Dallas Theological Seminary and what is their official stance assuming there is even an official stance.

My Alma Mater was Calvary University at KCMO. We had an unofficial alliance with DTS and though we had a graduate school at Calvary some of our graduates went on to Dallas.

There was a mixed multitude of 3.5, 4 and 5 pointers at Calvary with an occasional civil war breaking out.

I was a mugwump even then so I stayed out of it.

HankD

 

In the 1960'S My wife and I attended Tremont Temple Baptist church just 1/2 block down from Park St church which Ockenga pastored. Later we joined Cornerstone Baptist (KJVO).

Park St church was just off the Boston Common Park and in those days we would do street preaching right outside of Park St (in the Common to make it legal).

I don't remember hearing any bad things about Dallas at Cornerstone.
However New-Evangelicalism (as the pastor called it) and Ockenga was a pariah there.

HankD