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Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by Aaron, Dec 8, 2016.

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  1. JonShaff

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    I want to talk to management, Because Communism is far cry from The Theocracy Described in God's Word. Same thing with this Democracy Stuff. Not to mention socialism. This Doesn't seem like The Rule and Reign as described in the Bible.
     
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    IF this was really Jesus ruling in an absolute sense, doubt very much gay marriages/Isis/Abortions would be allowed!
     
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    Don't forget about all of the genocide of Christians and Jews in the last 75 years.
     
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    As He did in the days of Job? And Pharaoh? And Pilate? And Herod?
     
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    And these are worse sins than the murder of God's Son? Or are you saying that was not God's will?
     
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    The rule and reign is in men's hearts. He is also sovereign over the winds and waves and causes His sun to rise and His rain to fall on the evil and the good. And the ruler of evil men cannot do a thing without God's permission.

    How, again, is Christ not ruling?
     
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    Which means what? For whom would Christ's priests offer gifts and sacrifices?
     
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    So you are basically saying God isn't doing a good job?
     
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    Those that populate the Earth

    Isaiah 65
     
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    No, that was TCassidy

    Never mind Paul:

    28 And we know that to them that love God all things work together for good, even to them that are called according to his purpose.
    37 Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.
    38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor things present, nor things to come, nor powers,
    39 nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. Ro 8

    Or Christ Himself for that matter:

    18 And Jesus came to them and spake unto them, saying, All authority hath been given unto me in heaven and on earth. Mt 28

    So Cassidy, you gonna tell Him that to His face when you see Him?

    (sorry Aaron, I couldn't restrain myself, now back to the sidelines where you requested)
     
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    Please do not tell untruths regarding what I have said and what I believe. I did not say Jesus was doing a terrible job of reigning. I said "IF" He is presently reigning over all the earth He is doing a terrible job.

    He makes it clear that Satan, the God of this world, the Prince of the power of the air, is reigning and will do so until Christ returns and establishes His Sovereign Reign over all the earth.

    God is not the author of sin, so the sin we see all around us cannot possibly be the result of His Sovereign Reign.
     
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    Something about His statement of Mt 28:18 that you don't get?
     
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    No, you are. But consider this, Nebuchadnezzar thought as you do . . .

    [Dan 4:32-37 KJV] 32 And they shall drive thee from men, and thy dwelling [shall be] with the beasts of the field: they shall make thee to eat grass as oxen, and seven times shall pass over thee, until thou know that the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will. 33 The same hour was the thing fulfilled upon Nebuchadnezzar: and he was driven from men, and did eat grass as oxen, and his body was wet with the dew of heaven, till his hairs were grown like eagles' [feathers], and his nails like birds' [claws]. 34 And at the end of the days I Nebuchadnezzar lifted up mine eyes unto heaven, and mine understanding returned unto me, and I blessed the most High, and I praised and honoured him that liveth for ever, whose dominion [is] an everlasting dominion, and his kingdom [is] from generation to generation: 35 And all the inhabitants of the earth [are] reputed as nothing: and he doeth according to his will in the army of heaven, and [among] the inhabitants of the earth: and none can stay his hand, or say unto him, What doest thou? 36 At the same time my reason returned unto me; and for the glory of my kingdom, mine honour and brightness returned unto me; and my counsellors and my lords sought unto me; and I was established in my kingdom, and excellent majesty was added unto me. 37 Now I Nebuchadnezzar praise and extol and honour the King of heaven, all whose works [are] truth, and his ways judgment: and those that walk in pride he is able to abase.​
     
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    No, I understand it quite well. He has the authority to give the commission. He also has the authority to allow the world to follow its path to destruction before He intervenes.
     
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    I'm going to cut to the chase. Premillennialism is a myth. It requires the reestablishment of the law, and denies the Atonement. And if there can be something worse, it asserts that God's will was thwarted by the unbelief of men in saying that Messiah could not reign 2000 years ago as He was meant to do.

    Revelation is symbolic. Even those who think they are taking it literally call the locusts helicopters (as if John couldn't couldn't distinguish between machines and living things when he was shown machines). The millennium is now, and it will come to an end when Christ returns at the Second and last Advent.
     
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    Sez you.
    Poppycock.

    More Poppycock.

    Sez you.
    And even more Poppycock. Helicopters! LOL! :Roflmao:Roflmao

    A 2000 year 1000 year reign. Let me guess. You were not a math major, were you?
     
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    Isaiah 65:22, 25 They shall not build, and another inhabit; they shall not plant, and another eat: for as the days of a tree are the days of my people, and mine elect shall long enjoy the work of their hands.


    The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock: and dust shall be the serpent's meat. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, saith the LORD.


    Oh so this is going on now?
     
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    ???

    No, that's what you're reading into His words to fit your view, but that's not what He actually said:

    18 And Jesus came to them and spake unto them, saying, All authority hath been given unto me in heaven and on earth. Mt 28
     
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    Specifically. ..

    Zechariah 14:16-19 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.
    And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain.
    And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith the LORD will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.
    This shall be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment of all nations that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.
     
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