Do your own looking. It's not that hard. There are plenty of them. You can start with Wordsmith, but there are many others.
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This is how Donald Trump engineers applause
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Do your own looking. It's not that hard. There are plenty of them. You can start with Wordsmith, but there are many others.
Oxford Dictionary? Yes. (The dictionary you used.)
Wordsmyth Dictionary? No.
Merriam Webster? No.
Dictionary.com? No.
TheOnlineDictionary? No.
The Free Dictionary? No.
Webster's Dictionary? No.
Wordfinder? No.
Google Dictionary? No.
Your Dictionary? No.
American Heritage Dictionary? No.
Collins English Dictionary? No.
Infoplease Dictionary? No.
Online Etymology Dictionary? No.
WordNet? No.
http://www.onelook.com/?w=claque&ls=a&loc=home_ac_Claque
Just admit you're wrong.
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Nope. You are wrong.
Many times over. You took the lazy way out and it shows.
Give it up. I don't really want to embarrass you any further than you have embarrassed yourself. The word "claque" has been used both for applauders and hecklers for well over a century.
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Claque = The word claque might call to mind the sound of a clap, and that's no accident. Claque is a French borrowing that descends from the verb claquer, meaning "to clap," and the noun claque, meaning "a clap." Those French words in turn originated in imitation of the sound associated with them. English speakers borrowed claque in the 19th century. At that time, the practice of infiltrating audiences with hired members was very common to French theater culture. Claque members received money and free tickets to laugh, cry, shout-and of course clap-in just the right spots, hopefully influencing the rest of the audience to do the same.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/claque
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/claque
I'm just asking for a link to one dictionary besides Oxford that shows "claque" also means to heckle.
Calling you out on this three times now. Embarrass me? You've done nothing of the sort.
The easy way out is to keep asserting something with no proof and then hurl insults when challenged.
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I do not see the word heckle as part of the definition in the Oxford dictonary. Here is what I found:
Mid 19th century: French, from claquer to clap. The practice of paying members of an audience for their support originated at the Paris opera.
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/claque
Huh? Your link says:
"2 A group of people hired to applaud (or heckle) a performer or public speaker."
Encyclopaedia Britannica
"claque, (French claquer: “to clap”), organized body of persons who, either for hire or from other motives, band together to applaud or deride a performance and thereby attempt to influence the audience."
"claque, (French claquer: “to clap”), organized body of persons who, either for hire or from other motives, band together to applaud or deride a performance and thereby attempt to influence the audience."
Carpro using alternative facts now. You can't win if he won't be honest.
Webster's Dictionary (1912)
"claque (klak), n. an organized body of men who are paid to applaud or disapprove at theaters: hence interested admirers or critics. [French.]"
"claque (klak), n. an organized body of men who are paid to applaud or disapprove at theaters: hence interested admirers or critics. [French.]"
https://books.google.com/books?id=FeoQAAAAQBAJ&pg=PA85
"CLAQUE. Organized corps of mercenary attendees (claqueurs, from French for “clap”) at a play or opera recruited with free tickets or hired outright to reinforce support for allied productions and artists or to disrupt rivals."
"CLAQUE. Organized corps of mercenary attendees (claqueurs, from French for “clap”) at a play or opera recruited with free tickets or hired outright to reinforce support for allied productions and artists or to disrupt rivals."
Democrats routinely pack the house with their sycophant supporters. The most egregious examples are those times when they pack the stage with upper echelon law enforcement folks every time that have a confab for more gun control laws. They are the worst of the worst regarding this practice.
https://books.google.com/books?id=oT_rZizNcBAC&pg=PA57
"claque n. Hired audience members who support a particular actor with vociferous applause and/or boo a rival actor whom they are employed to denigrate"
"claque n. Hired audience members who support a particular actor with vociferous applause and/or boo a rival actor whom they are employed to denigrate"
Historian Robert Caro, Pulitzer-prize winning biographer of LBJ:
https://books.google.com/books?id=ku-Ji0r56iUC&pg=PA346
"...Johnson's claque was heckling and booing Small now, in an attempt to drown him out..."
"...Yelling above the shouts of Johnson's claque, Small told the committee..."
https://books.google.com/books?id=ku-Ji0r56iUC&pg=PA346
"...Johnson's claque was heckling and booing Small now, in an attempt to drown him out..."
"...Yelling above the shouts of Johnson's claque, Small told the committee..."
OK, I concede. You've found some obscure, secondary references that misuse the word claque to mean heckle.
Pendants gonna pedant.
Pendants gonna pedant.
By secondary references I meant your quotes from the Acting and Theater dictionary and the LBJ biography. By obscure I meant your reference to the 1912 Webster's dictionary.
Also, the Oxford Dictionary and Encyclopaedia Britannica are outdated references in the UK, and hardly ever used in the U.S.
You are really a drag sometimes. You argue over the most trivial matters like percentages and this. One dictionary is not enough "proof". A well respected one at that. Has to be 2.
Then the question is, will you accept any of it and admit that the word is used in more ways that you think it is. Don't you have anything better to do?
http://www.seadict.com/en/en/claque
claque
n.
[wklak, klα:k]
■ noun
a group of sycophantic followers.
a group of people hired to applaud or heckle a performer.
http://wordsmith.org/words/claque.html
claque
PRONUNCIATION:
(klak)
MEANING:
noun: A group of people hired to applaud at a performance.
ETYMOLOGY:
From French claque, from claquer (to clap), of imitative origin. Earliest documented use: 1864.
NOTES:
Although a claque is usually hired to applaud, sometimes it is also used to heckle at a rival's performance.
http://www.memidex.com/claque
Brittania Encyclopedia
claque [theatre]
organized body of persons who, either for hire or from other motives, band together to applaud or deride a performance
Wiktionary
claque | claques [plural]
A group of people hired to attend a performance and to either applaud or boo.
It's been used both ways for well over a century.
Wordcraft Dictionary
claque – 1. a group of people hired to applaud or heckle a performer; a "rent-a-crowd" 2. a group of sycophantic followers (esp. in politics)
[from Fr. claquer "to clap"]
"Outside the windows Drumont's claque, paid at forty sous a head, hooted and jeered"
– Barbara Tuchman, The Proud Tower: A Portrait of the World Before the War, 1890-1914
Even the New York Times recognizes it can be used both ways:
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/02/01/a...-bravos-at-opera-are-expected-but-booing.html
But paid claques, pro and con, have also been part of the operatic tradition, and the practice may be lingering more than is known.
And you couldn't find anything at all.
Can't wait to hear you whine about this not being good enough. But it's all you're going to get.
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