Trump is a manipulator. He will say anything to get people to believe what we wants them to believe. Why should anyone trust a person like that?
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Trump gets border wall funds, money for military
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That's not the Trump I know. He's extremely honest, too honest for politics. Trump will tell you exactly what he wants, exactly what he's going to do, then gets it done.
Most politicians are exactly the opposite.
Wow.
You are operating in a different reality.
Congratulations. I have never quoted another member in my .sig, but you are a special case.
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Enjoy!
By the way, you were the one who said that Trump was "manipulative." I was only quoting you.
Do you not remember posting this:
Manipulative: characterized by unscrupulous control of a situation or person.
unscrupulous: having or showing no moral principles; not honest or fair.
Well for once I actually agree with you assessment of Trump when you said he is manipulative.
Yes, but not in the sense of lying. Trump gets stuff done, he does what it takes he's relentless. Kind of like wise as serpents harmless as doves. The guy is a fighter, but an extremely honest one.
Your hatred of the President is duly noted. I don't share it though. I truly like the guy and think he's a good many by human standards.
Hey you are the one that called him manipulative. I just agreed with you that should be viewed as progress, one way or another.
And per my signature I will take my win on this one, and add this hate card to all my racist cards I I was given during the Obama administration.
And I stand by it. He's as wise as a serpent.
Uh huh....
Shall establish, Develop, Propose, Study, Review, Submit, Report, according to you, is a EO that is not doing anything.
You can argue that all day long, and still I disagree with you.
Yes, but this is not Trump's budget. This was just a way to keep the government running until his budget is presented in the fall. Trumps budget is being worked on now. That budget will have plenty of funding for the wall, and we'll see where the republican congress is.
We'll also see if Cruz and Rubio and the establishment republicans in the Senate are willing to kill the 60 vote rule. We'll see if they are the true conservatives they claimed to be.
And yes, it's very clear now he does have funds to fix current portions of the wall in place today which are very effective at stopping illegal immigration. It's a win win.
than given both the denotation and connotation of the word manipulative I will continue to agree with you on that assessment of his character.
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yep, good guy. I thank God for him.
This is good to you?
manipulative definition:
characterized by unscrupulous control of a situation or person.
"she was sly, selfish, and manipulative"
synonyms:scheming, calculating, cunning, crafty, wily, shrewd, devious, designing, conniving, Machiavellian, artful, guileful, slippery, slick, sly, unscrupulous, disingenuous;
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"his manipulative partner eventually stole the business out from under him"
That explains a lot. I do not think that being scheming or unscrupulous or guilful or devoius is good, but as I said I agree with you that manipulative is an accurate description of Trump which is why I don't trust him one bit.
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Yes!!!! Matt. 10:16.
Matt. 10:16 “Behold, I send you out as sheep in the midst of wolves. Therefore be wise as serpents and harmless as doves.
Matt. 10:16 “aBehold, I send you out as sheep in the midst of wolves; therefore 1be bshrewd as serpents, and cinnocent as doves.
Matt. 10:16 “I am sending you out like sheep among wolves.a Therefore be as shrewd as snakes and as innocent as doves.b
This is your latest test for conservatism? Whether or not someone wants to junk 228 years of Senate rules? Because they happen to have a slim majority for the next 20 months? HA HA HA.
Wow you're showing your hand right away. But yes any politician not willing to do what it takes to get conservative things done, like saving lives, is not a true conservative.
My guess is Ted Cruz will not fall in that category, so he's going to disappoint you again. Rubio, we'll see. But if you want Obama's work reversed, there's no way around it. The simple majority like the Constitution requires. The 60 rule is archaic.
Hey don't feel bad, I was told that being for small constitutional government was not conservatives.
When Trump is the standard for all, including morality (Apparently I'm bad compared to him which given that manipulative is considered good, I'm ok with being "bad" Especially considering that I'm a wretch when compared to the true standard of Christ) and conservatism it's going to make for some crazy definitions of words.
Also the lessons about hubris of a ruling party has been lost. (anyone remember the permanent democrats majority? yeah we saw how long that lasted. The GOP majority will not last forever either.) No one person or party will rule indefinitely. I for one don't want to see the mess Democrats could create if the Republican are stupid enough to give them absolute power in the Senate. I mean look what they have been able to do as the minority party, do we really want to give them total power when they are the majority again.
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Cunning: cun·ning
ˈkəniNG/
adjective
1.
having or showing skill in achieving one's ends by deceit or evasion.
noun
1.
skill in achieving one's ends by deceit.
Still agree. The more I dig into Manipultive and it's meanings the more I think you are right on the money using that word to describe Trump. Well done on that.
As far as the verse you quoted and alluded to most of the day, you are only focusing in half. We are also to be as innocent as doves. Being manipulative or unscrupulous is the opposite of being harmless or innocent.
We are to be BOTH wise as serpents and harmless as doves to be following the commands of Jesus. And you yourself have made it clear, by only quoting half the command in earlier post that Trump is only doing half which will not cut it.
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