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Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by Reynolds, Aug 9, 2018.

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  1. Yeshua1

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    Joel the #1 'Christian" speaker for today!
     
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    Ok, Joel Osteen.
     
  3. Yeshua1

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    Yep, the master of the fake smile!
     
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    RW has stated, on TV, that there are many paths to salvation and that falls into contradiction with the words and teaching of Yashuah ha'Mashiah, making him a false teacher, a heretic. Joel, I have never seen the man open the scriptures to check himself on his teaching. I have need of nothing from any False Teacher and both of these are, just, that.
     
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    Warren seems to say some bad things then clarify. I'm fine with that. We all say wrong things. I disagree with him in many areas. I wouldn't recommend his teachings per se. I think he's a Christian, though.
     
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    he seems to be going into the ole Andy Stanley camp, of the"I am saved, but really bad theology"
     
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    I'm not trying to offend but you are dead wrong and that is most likely due to the number one error in Biblical Theology I see folks working and sweating to death trying to sell.

    Satandid one of his very best or, really, most evil deeds when he inspired the fools to divide the Books of Scripture into books, chapters, titled sections anf verses.The word of YHWH is of one continuous context from "in the Beginning... through tte last last word of The Revelation 22.

    Everything YHWH has done is for the Crowning Creation, man's benefit, Salvation. Until one will understand these writings were not what a collaborating group of men thought up to control their underlings, Salvation will not occure.
     
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    I suppose it's possible I could be offended.....if I had the faintest idea what you were talking about.
     
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    Glad I am not the only one missing it.
     
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    So your bible just reads as one hugh sentence?
     
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    How I feel about RW; I doubt he has ever been saved, he's too wishy washy for me, and I truly believe his stupid book "The Purpose Driven Lie" has done nothing but harm the Church as a whole.
     
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    Can you see his heart?

    Is "wishy washy" a technical or a biblical term?

    How many books have you written?

    At least he can spell "life."

    So you think Christ lied when He said the gates of hell will not prevail against His church?

    Tell me how Rick Warren's book has hurt the "church as a whole?"
     
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    Wishy Washy means his stuff sounds flowery and nice but it's not Biblical, it doesn't line up with Scripture.

    I have wrote no books, but I do not see what this has to do with anything... I look up to only One Book - the BIBLE KJV.

    I do know how to spell LIFE, I purposely spelled LIE... I am sorry you lack a sense of humor...

    Of course I don't think Christ lied, you are clearly not grasping what I was trying to say... I am trying to say that because of RW we are now seeing a new antichrist movement known as "the emerging church", a "church" if you can call it that - that never preaches on sin, repentance, hell, salvation, etc etc... it's nothing but a bring them in and take their money coffee shop get together sort of thing. I have seen it with my own eyes what his stupid book is doing to MANY churches!

    RWs book teaches;
    that churches should be called worship centers,
    there's many ways to God - Christ isn't the only way,
    there's no repentance,
    don't preach on sin,
    don't talk about the Blood of Christ,
    take down the Crosses,
    remove the Pews,
    remove the hymnals,
    get a more modern Bible,
    etc etc.

    There's no way that man has ever been saved or he wouldn't not be spouting out what he is spouting out, period. I could understand being backslid, if we are saved we are saved, but the way that man talks he is clearly denying that Jesus IS the only way! this is HERESY!

    PS. I can tell clearly that I won't be staying on this Forum for long, especially if this is how the Admin of all people treats their Members by mocking them.
     
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    Really? How not?

    Which KJV? The 1611? The 1613? The 1629? The 1638? The 1762? The 1769? The 1873? All different. Which one is the ONLY one?

    So you accuse a man you don't know and know nothing about of being a liar?

    You said Warren hurt Churches. Jesus said even the gates of hell would not prevail against His church. I think it is you who lacked a good grasp of issues, not to mention the bible.

    LOL! You are WAY behind the times. The so-called "emerging church" has not been a serious issue for about 10 years.

    Wrong again.

    Wrong again.

    Wrong again.

    Wrong again.

    Wrong again. Have you ever even been to Saddleback?

    Name one. And give me an address so I can write the pastor.

    Is that why Saddleback is called Saddleback Church? Saddleback Church - One Family, Many Locations. Help. Healing. Hope.

    Nope. Only Jesus.

    Wrong again!

    Wrong again.

    Wrong again.

    LOL! ROFLOL! Saddleback_church_Lake_Forest_building.jpg

    Wrong again.

    Wrong again.

    Good idea.

    You mean like the Gospel?

    Wrong again.

    If you are going to do nothing but attack other Christians that may be a good idea.

    I may not agree with all his methods, but I won't lie about him.
     
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    How mature... NOT. -- I can agree with not attacking another Christian, but RW would have to be one first of all... and I HIGHLY doubt he is. But yea... this forum isn't for me, no wonder it has only a select few members saying anything... your mocking attitude is atrocious.

    For anyone who cares and wishes to see the truth;
     
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    Wow! Your "proof" is from a ministry that denies salvation is by grace through faith alone and teaches that baptism is necessary for salvation.

    You are obviously NOT a Baptist.
     
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    What are some good forums for Christian discussions?



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    Phil Johnson of the Master's Seminary denies salvation by grace? And believes in baptismal regeneration? Where did you get that from?
     
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    Once again you demonstrate your inability to follow the discussion.

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    What We Believe | Holy Bible Prophecy

    What is necessary for initial salvation?
    Faith / Belief — John 3:16, Acts 10:43, 13:39, 16:31, 20:21, Rom 5:2, 10:9-11, Eph 2:8-9, Heb 11:11, 1 John 5:10,
    Repentance — Prov 28:13, Mark 1:15, Luke 5:32, 13:3-5, 15:10, 24:47, Acts 2:38, 3:19, 8:22, 11:18, 17:30, 20:21, 26:19-20, 2 Cor 7:10, Heb 6:1, 1 Thess 1:9, 2 Peter 3:9
    Confession — Matt 3:6, Rom 10:9, 1 Tim 6:12
    Baptism — Matt 28:19, Mark 16:16, John 3:5, Acts 2:38, 10:48, Rom 6, 1 Cor 1:12-13, 10:2, Col 2:11-15, Titus 3:5, 1 Pet 3:21

    Loss of salvation

    Some believe or endure only for a while, but fall away in time of temptation — Matt 13:20-21, Mark 4:16-17, Luke 8:12-13
    Some become choked out by riches, pleasures of life, and cares of this world — Matt 13:22-23, Mark 4:18-19, Luke 8:14
    Forgiven servant who doesn’t forgive his brother is delivered to the torturers — Matt 18:21-35
    Servant who beats fellow servants, eats and drinks with drunkards will be cut in two and share portion with unbelievers — Matt 24:48-51, Luke 12:45-46
    Foolish virgins shut out of the wedding — Matt 25:10-13
    Unprofitable servant cast into outer darkness — Matt 25:24-30, Luke 19:21-27
    Backslides and shares portion with unbelievers — Luke 12:45-46
    Some disciples have ceased to follow Jesus — John 6:66
    Branches that don’t bear fruit are burned in the fire — John 15:6
    Judas was given to Christ by the Father and later lost — John 17:6-12
    Warnings — Heb 3:12, 6:4-8, 10:36-39
    Actual cases of falling away (past and future) — 1 Tim 1:19, 4:1, 5:15, 2 Tim 2:17-18, 4:10, 6:8-10
    Fallen from grace — Gal 5:4
    Neglect of salvation will lead to grievous consequences — 1 Cor.9:26-27, Heb 2:3, 10:26-29, 2 Tim 2:11-13
    Passages where salvation hinges on the word “IF” — 1 Cor 15:1-2, Col 1:21-22, 1 Tim 2:15; 1 John 2:24-25

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    LOL! And once again you obfuscate, obfuscate, obfuscate. Typical defensive mode for you when called out.

    Back up your claim in your last post?
     
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