Featured Is A Silent Church Complicit In The War Crimes of Its State?

The purpose of the church is to worship God in Spirit and truth and to train the fellowship in righteousness toward God, each other and the world in general. The church is not responsible for the actions of the state.

 

I haven't seen compelling evidence that any of the folks listed are war criminals. However, former Senator and Secretary of State J*hn K*rry confessed before Congress in the early 1970's that he had personally committed "war crimes and autrocities" during the Veitnam War.

I don't see the church having any role in this (politics) besides individual Christian's being informed and voting their conscience.

 

Did God say they are Christians? It is clear that the Word through scripture reveals what being Christian is. It would seem wolves in sheep's clothing (use of titles and name Christian) are not it. Christians are about the matters of Christ's kingdom. To the increase of His kingdom there shall be no end. Men's kingdoms shall decrease but His is an eternal one.

 

Well, since Paul was a murderer of Christians before God intervened in his life, I suspect the Christians in those churches he founded started off "fraternizing" with a murderer.

I find it interesting that you would not welcome the Apostle Paul into fellowship. Your discernment might not be as good as you think.

As far as the I Cor. passage, you left off the verse that said, "and such were some of you". Paul clearly says people change in Christ. Though you may have been a murderer or engaged in other repulsive behavior, you are a new person in Christ and deserve fellowship.

Peace to you

 

I can't see into a person to know whether Holy Spirit indwells or not.

 

The church should focus on the things of God. You are obviously very passionate about this particular political issue. I don't think you are looking at it in an objective manner.

The issue of just war theory or whether Christians should be involved in military services has been debated since the 1st century. We won't solve it here.

Calling deceased ex-presidents war criminals and murderers won't move the debate forward.

Thanks for the conversation.

Peace to you

 

Unto Us a Child is Born Isaiah 9:5-7
…5(For every trampling boot of battle and every garment rolled in blood will be burned as fuel for the fire). 6For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given, and the( government) will be upon His shoulders. And He will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. 7Of the increase of His government and peace there will be no end. He will reign on the throne of David and over his kingdom, to establish and sustain it with justice and righteousness from that time and forevermore. The zeal of the LORD of Hosts will accomplish this.…

I am not a SDM but I can not argue against what is truth "I will not apologize for the gospel for I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ". His kingdom should be the ONLY thing believers profess. The government is upon His shoulders, it is the cross that all TRUE Christians are crucified by. The governments of men are evil, hypocritical and even if a good be done an evil is done along side that. Lukewarmness is spewed out by the Lord. To the increase of Christ government there will be no end, but man's is coming to an end. Men's GOVERNMENTS put crosses on men. Crosses too heavy to carry that good men have to help.

 

A Father's Instruction Proverbs 4:22-24
…22For they are life to those who find them, and health to the whole body. 23Guard your heart with all diligence, for from it flow springs of life. 24Put away deception from your mouth; keep your lips from perverse speech.…

We know a person by their actions, deeds, works. What people do reflects what is or is not in them.

 

War criminals are determined in the eye of the beholder, usually the winning side. For example, had the Axis won WW2, General LeMay woulda been executed as a war criminal by Japan for ordering the fire bombing of Tokyo, which killed more civilians than either nuke did. But, since they lost, General, then PM Tojo was executed as a war criminal, when actually he didn't go outside Japan's fighting tradition. Same for the Nazis. had they won, they woulds executed Ike, Churchill, De Gaulle, etc. as war criminals.

In ancient times, there was no "declaring war." An army simply attacked whom they considered the enemy, or a people they wanted to conquer with no warning, if possible, and one side often killed all the enemy, including anyone they believed could help the enemy. And almost always, the loser's leaders & often their families, were slain.

Of course, what Iraquis that still regard Saddam as a hero call Bush a war criminal. But they lost; big deal!

(I believe GOD caused the USA to attack Saddam's regime cuz he was trying to rebuild Babylon, something God said would never happen. One of his "Babylonian" buildings was used for artillery practice by UN forces.)

What matters is if these people are criminals in GOD'S sight.