Babylon The Great Is A Murderous, Presumptuous Regime With A Global Reach

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

Tulsi Gabbard is the only Presidential candidate that opposes regime change wars. That makes her far more Christian than all the murderous psychopaths that are in control of government now.

I have not forgotten Obama and Hillary in Libya and the rise of ISIS. Obama sold tons of weapons to the Saudis with no restrictions. Her party is into such maneuvers bigtime, plus the mass murder of babies both in the US and around the world. They care nothing about human life or human rights.

More than anyone, the Democrats march in lockstep to divide and destroy America. Obama did as much damage as any president has. Hillary promised more of the same and Tulsi is little better, if any. She is anti-2nd amendment, a feminist, pro-abortion, for open borders, for a welfare state, for free college tuition, pro-Muslim (Islamomanic), pro-LGBTQ (homomanic), for climate change taxation, for anti-Christian values in general.

She is not to be trusted. We already have a MAGA president, if that is what you want. She isn't even a cleverly disguised substitute. Don't be deceived by her propaganda.

 

[church mouse guy]

The Seventh-day Millerites are truly supporting Raul Castro in Venezuela because he is the communist in charge there. They are saying that it is un-Christian to force a communist government out of power. We can begin to bring down Raul Castro by cutting off American tourism to Cuba and rescuing refugees from Cuba. We can deny planes and ships that have been to Cuba or that are going to Cuba the right to use American harbors or ports. The Cuban communists have no friends unless China wants to help them or perhaps Iran. With the Venezuelan army fleeing Venezuela, the Maduro regime, in power by fraudulent election, will have to rely more and more on Russia, Turkey, China, and Iran for bodyguards for the murderer Maduro as Cuban military assets are limited.

 

[Martin Marprelate]

Actually, the introduction is very similar to well-established Seventh-day Millerite eschatology.



Observe:

1. A Call To Overcome (Rev. 1-3).
2. The Court Assembled (Rev. 4-5).

3. The First Scenario (Rev. 6).
4. The Second Scenario (Rev. 7-11).
5. The Third Scenario (Rev. 12-18).

6. The Court’s Final Verdict (Rev. 19-20).
7. The Reward Of Those Who Overcome (Rev. 21-22).

Source: The Millerite Interpretation of Multiple Prophetic Scenarios

The teaching is far older than Miller.

 

[robycop3]

The teaching is far older than Miller.

When the "Great Disappointment" came about Oct. 22, 1844, most millerites simply gave up their beliefs & moved on to the next page. To his credit, Miller admitted he musta goofed in his calculations, & went back to his profession of watching the north end of a southbound horse as it pulled a plow.

But some of his followers didn't learn his lesson. Some founded the SDA; others formed the millerites.

 

[Zog Has-fallen]

I have not forgotten Obama and Hillary in Libya and the rise of ISIS. Obama sold tons of weapons to the Saudis with no restrictions. Her party is into such maneuvers bigtime,

But the Reichpublicans are not? You have been bewitched big time!

 

[Zog Has-fallen]

When the "Great Disappointment" came about Oct. 22, 1844, most millerites simply gave up their beliefs & moved on to the next page. To his credit, Miller admitted he musta goofed in his calculations, & went back to his profession

I accept William Miller's confession but disapprove of your ignorance. William Miller's Confession - August 1, 1845

 

[Zog Has-fallen]

The teaching is far older than Miller.

Then woe to your more recent source for not understanding it. The outline I posted clearly does not support the assertion that the seven-fold division in the book of Revelation consists of "a series of seven parallel visions of the Last Days."

 

[Zog Has-fallen]

More than anyone, the Democrats march in lockstep to divide and destroy America.

I agree that the Dumbocrats, the Reichpublicans, and the Reich Church are in lockstep to bring misery and destruction around the globe. And for that reason, God will allow mighty Babylon the Great to be destroyed with nuclear fire immediately following terrible plagues, death, mourning and famine.

Revelation 18:8-10
For this reason her plagues will come in a single day,
death and mourning and famine,
and she will be burned up with fire;
for mighty is the Lord God who has judged her.”

And the kings of the earth, who committed sexual immorality and lived in luxury with her, will weep and wail over her when they see the smoke of her burning. They will stand far off, in fear of her torment, and say,

“Alas! Alas! You great city,
you mighty city, Babylon!
For in a single hour your judgment has come.”

 

[Zog Has-fallen]

The Seventh-day Millerites are truly supporting Raul Castro in Venezuela because he is the communist in charge there. They are saying that it is un-Christian to force a communist government out of power.

There are only two points of view on what is happening in Venezuela: that of the deep state and everyone else. Consequently, I'm still waiting for a rebuttal to the public confessions of the deep state operatives in Question 3, post #3.

 

[Zog Has-fallen]

She is not to be trusted. .... Don't be deceived by her propaganda.

List all the regime change wars since 1950 and identify the specific ones that had a good outcome. What is Tulsi Gabbard lying about?

 

[church mouse guy]

There are only two points of view on what is happening in Venezuela: that of the deep state and everyone else. Consequently, I'm still waiting for a rebuttal to the public confessions of the deep state operatives in Question 3, post #3.

I think that you should talk to someone outside of Seventh-day Millerites. No one but communists and Seventh-day Millerites think that Maduro's government is legitimate or that communism is good. I just wonder if you think that the criticism of King Herod was deep state?

 

[Covenanter]

I'm an English evangelical, and I'm increasingly concerned about the US evangelicals giving evangelicalism a bad name. Mainly because of their misuse of prophecy in recognition of the corrupt state of Israel, seeing world events as signs of the imminent return of our Lord Jesus Christ, ignoring environmental concerns, Dispensationalism and a false Gospel that accepts decisions rather than repentance and new life and a living faith.

Question 1: Do you believe that the book of Revelation is a fantasy?

Revelation 18:4-8
Then I heard another voice from heaven saying,

“Come out of her, my people,
lest you take part in her sins,
lest you share in her plagues;
for her sins are heaped high as heaven,
and God has remembered her iniquities.
Pay her back as she herself has paid back others,
and repay her double for her deeds;
mix a double portion for her in the cup she mixed.
As she glorified herself and lived in luxury,
so give her a like measure of torment and mourning,
since in her heart she says,
‘I sit as a queen,
I am no widow,
and mourning I shall never see.’
For this reason her plagues will come in a single day,
death and mourning and famine,
and she will be burned up with fire;
for mighty is the Lord God who has judged her.”

I believe Revelation was written before the AD 70 destruction, and primarily concerns that event. It has application down the ages, but not specific prophecies.

In his Olivet prophecy, Jesus warned believers of the signs at which they should flee the city.

Question 2: Are the following Scriptures True or False?

Exodus 23:1-2
You shall not bear a false report; do not join your hand with a wicked man to be a malicious witness. You shall not follow the masses in doing evil, nor shall you testify in a dispute so as to turn aside after a multitude in order to pervert justice.

Leviticus 19:17
Do not hate a fellow Israelite in your heart. Rebuke your neighbor frankly so you will not share in his guilt.

Such Scriptures continue to apply, and are a major reason for questioning the policies of our nations.

Please enlighten me yet again. Question 3: Where is your rebuttal to the following testimonies?

I haven't watched them, but I have read many such. Our nations are concerned with the use of power and exploitation of the resources, particularly oil.

Socialism is seen as the great enemy, whereas I am strongly in favour of a true socialism that works for the people. NOT to be confused with Russian communism that dominates the people.

I support Jeremy Corbyn, the British Labour leader and consider the attacks on him are because of corrupt interests and fear of the loss of privilege if he gains power.

 

[Zog Has-fallen]

I'm an English evangelical, and I'm increasingly concerned about the US evangelicals giving evangelicalism a bad name. Mainly because of their misuse of prophecy in recognition of the corrupt state of Israel, seeing world events as signs of the imminent return of our Lord Jesus Christ, ignoring environmental concerns, Dispensationalism and a false Gospel that accepts decisions rather than repentance and new life and a living faith.

Then you’re very close to the kingdom of God.

I believe Revelation was written before the AD 70 destruction, and primarily concerns that event. It has application down the ages, but not specific prophecies.

Then you admit that you don’t recognize either the three scenarios or the elegant structure profiled in post #96.

Our nations are concerned with the use of power and exploitation of the resources, particularly oil.

Socialism is seen as the great enemy, whereas I am strongly in favour of a true socialism that works for the people. NOT to be confused with Russian communism that dominates the people.

It seems that lying thieves and murderers have to demonize giving and living for others.

 

[church mouse guy]

I'm an English evangelical, and I'm increasingly concerned about the US evangelicals giving evangelicalism a bad name. Mainly because of their misuse of prophecy in recognition of the corrupt state of Israel, seeing world events as signs of the imminent return of our Lord Jesus Christ, ignoring environmental concerns, Dispensationalism and a false Gospel that accepts decisions rather than repentance and new life and a living faith.



I believe Revelation was written before the AD 70 destruction, and primarily concerns that event. It has application down the ages, but not specific prophecies.

In his Olivet prophecy, Jesus warned believers of the signs at which they should flee the city.


Such Scriptures continue to apply, and are a major reason for questioning the policies of our nations.


I haven't watched them, but I have read many such. Our nations are concerned with the use of power and exploitation of the resources, particularly oil.

Socialism is seen as the great enemy, whereas I am strongly in favour of a true socialism that works for the people. NOT to be confused with Russian communism that dominates the people.

I support Jeremy Corbyn, the British Labour leader and consider the attacks on him are because of corrupt interests and fear of the loss of privilege if he gains power.

It is wrong to classify Seventh-day Millerites as Evangelicals and probably hurts their feelings. Latin America has several pure socialistic states that you can defect to. Bring your own toilet paper.

 

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

But the Reichpublicans are not? You have been bewitched big time!

Where did I say what you say I said? You are reading into things what you want--the very problem I've been pointing out from the beginning.

 

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

I have not forgotten Obama and Hillary in Libya and the rise of ISIS. Obama sold tons of weapons to the Saudis with no restrictions. Her party is into such maneuvers bigtime, plus the mass murder of babies both in the US and around the world. They care nothing about human life or human rights.

More than anyone, the Democrats march in lockstep to divide and destroy America. Obama did as much damage as any president has. Hillary promised more of the same and Tulsi is little better, if any. She is anti-2nd amendment, a feminist, pro-abortion, for open borders, for a welfare state, for free college tuition, pro-Muslim (Islamomanic), pro-LGBTQ (homomanic), for climate change taxation, for anti-Christian values in general.

She is not to be trusted. We already have a MAGA president, if that is what you want. She isn't even a cleverly disguised substitute. Don't be deceived by her propaganda.

Your version:

She is not to be trusted. .... Don't be deceived by her propaganda.

List all the regime change wars since 1950 and identify the specific ones that had a good outcome. What is Tulsi Gabbard lying about?

It is nonsensical to excise the answer, then ask for it. But then you may not recognize lies when they are labeled "progressive."

I did not try to defend regime change wars. I only noted that they are not Republican, but bipartisan. Believing that Tulsi would eliminate them as president is at best extremely naive. And the way she might "eliminate" them could be worse than what we have. She is a Democrat first and foremost and stands for their progressive lies, for they are hers as well. There is no good reason to trust her in this one thing. Clinton feigned resistance to NAFTA until elected, then went full NAFTA.

 

[Zog Has-fallen]

Where did I say what you say I said?

Have you openly agreed with my thesis? Yes or No? Is the world's currently ruling hegemon going around liberating the oppressed, establishing justice, and bringing peace and prosperity to the world? Is Pro-Israel BDS (Be Dumb & Stupid) legislation consistent with the First Amendment? Is Christian Zionism a relatively recent, unquestionably apostate version of true Christian faith?

Matthew 5:37
Let what you say be simply ‘Yes’ or ‘No’; anything more than this comes from evil.

"I agree that the Dumbocrats, the Reichpublicans, and the Reich Church are in lockstep to bring misery and destruction around the globe."

 

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

Have you openly agreed with my thesis? Yes or No? Is the world's currently ruling hegemon going around liberating the oppressed, establishing justice, and bringing peace and prosperity to the world? Is Pro-Israel BDS (Be Dumb & Stupid) legislation consistent with the First Amendment? Is Christian Zionism a relatively recent, unquestionably apostate version of true Christian faith?

Matthew 5:37
Let what you say be simply ‘Yes’ or ‘No’; anything more than this comes from evil.

"I agree that the Dumbocrats, the Reichpublicans, and the Reich Church are in lockstep to bring misery and destruction around the globe."

How many times will you refuse to listen? I have asked you to fit all aspects into your thesis, and to do so coherently, cogently. Rather than doing so, you have repeatedly dismissed as of little or no consequence very significant antichrists currently at work in the world.

I offered a general thesis. If the two agree, then say so and show it, but I don't see how they do, and you have not shown how they do. I agree with John's warnings of many antichrists, and with his admonition to reject idols, and with Jesus' warning of all kinds of greed, and the list goes on.

 

[Zog Has-fallen]

Is the world's currently ruling hegemon a murderous, presumptuous regime with a global reach?

Matthew 5:37
Let what you say be simply ‘Yes’ or ‘No’; anything more than this comes from evil.

 

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

Is the world's currently ruling hegemon a murderous, presumptuous regime with a global reach?

Matthew 5:37
Let what you say be simply ‘Yes’ or ‘No’; anything more than this comes from evil.

Again, ye have heard that it hath been said by them of old time, Thou shalt not forswear thyself, but shalt perform unto the Lord thine oaths: But I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God's throne: Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King. Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one hair white or black. But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil. --Jesus in Matthew 5:33-37

If you would misuse the Bible the way you just did, even Jesus' own words, why should I be surprised when you misuse my posts the same? If you have no more discernment than that, why should anyone think you have a correct thesis? This is not a good thing you have done. If you don't understand what I am talking about, then you need to find someone whom you respect and who understands and teaches truth and have them explain it to you.