Once lost (again) always lost: Hebrews 6

This is a much more controversial passage re: losing salvation
than many others in the NT.

However, this passage refers to ...
people who reject God's light after having seen it.

Such people no longer have a mind to repent.
Those who reject the salvation offered by Christ
will find salvation nowhere else.

 

First - Hebrews 6 IMO is speaking of the nation of Israel.
Second - everyone ignores "if God permits".

It is impossible to bring Israel back to the place of repentance and usefulness until God lifts the Vail when and if He allows it.
it hearkens back to Acts 1.

Acts 1
6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?
7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.

 

Yes, I will accept is as one of several possible interpretations.
Because I do not have a clear revelation about it.

 

John 10:28 And I give unto them eternal life, and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. Eph. 4:30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.
You can't lose your salvation. Hebrews is saying it would put God to an open shame to renew someone unto repentance again because the whole point is that Christ's sacrifice and blood takes away all your sins. If you came under repentance again for salvation it defeats the purpose of Jesus Christ. It's the seed planted inside you that will never sin again, the "inward man" as Paul talks about in Romans. Paul even goes on to say that in his flesh there is no good. Romans 7:18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me: but how to perform that which is good I find not. Your flesh will continue to sin, but the inward man, "your soul" will not. Remember, if you are finding one scripture that sounds contradicting, find out what other scripture says, the Bible does not contradict itself. God is the same today as he was from the beginning. That even means salvation.

 

As per the previous verse, John 10:27 ...
Do you hear Jesus' voice?
Does He know you (W. E. Vine says "knew" in Matthew 7:23 means "approved of")
Do you follow Jesus?
(Do you know what's involved in following Jesus? For one thing, it involves obedience.)

 

Sorry, but I'm confused on this issue, and on your posts as well.
To be truthful, I'm much more interested in how dozens of other NT verses
CONFIRM each other than getting sure revelation on this one passage.
I realize you're hung up on it, but I'm not.
Another tough one for you is 2 Peter 2:20-22.

 

I disagree with your disagreement.

 

With all due respect, Hebrews 6 is not about the nation of Israel.

Hebrews 6:1-3 Therefore leaving the elementary teaching about the Christ, let us press on to maturity, not laying again a foundation of repentance from dead works and of faith toward God, 2 of instruction about washings and laying on of hands, and the resurrection of the dead and eternal judgment. 3 And this we will do, if God permits. (emphasis mine)

The author of Hebrews is writing to a believing audience. He is including himself in that audience ("let us" and "we will"). He is certainly writing about Jewish practices but he is not addressing Israel.

 

Yes he is:
"let us" he includes them because
Hebrews 6:9 But, beloved, we are persuaded better things of you, and things that accompany salvation, though we thus speak.

 

I have, as well.

I've never interacted with someone who believed loss of salvation, and actually recognized Hebrews 6:4-6.

As do I.
To me, it's describing a "hypothetical situation", and its shameful consequences...the necessity of crucifying the Lord all over again.