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  1. Reynolds

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    Sin should have a stigma attached to it.
    Abomination is now "addictive disorder"?
     
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    By all means, tell us what Dr. Hill says on the subject.
     
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    That's not the same thing as using that sin as your identity though.
     
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    I have struggled with both alcohol and prescription medications. I could blame it on everybody else. I just man up and say I made stupid choices. I didnt choose to get ptsd but I did choose to deal with it the wrong way. I do not struggle with either. God delivered me from them. I have a 10 year old bottle of moonshine(legal tax paid) on top of my frig and a bottle of the meds I was hooked on sitting beside my bed. No desire to use either.
     
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    No one is arguing against this. Former homosexuals have much to offer the Church and the world.
     
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    I agree.
     
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    Is there a YouTube video you recommend? Christopher Yuan's testimony "Out of a Far Country" is worth listening to or reading.
     
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    I do believe that I was sinning when I was addict. However, it is also a disease, very much out of one's control and very hard to get out of no matter how much you want to--my addiction made me suicidal, and yet I tried leaving it many hundreds of times before I succeeded.
    If you haven't been dependent on a substance or on the chemicals in your brain as in psychological addiction, it's hard to understand. To say that it's "only regular old sin nature" doesn't do the thing justice. It's not the same as not being able to stop eating sugar, it's much more extreme than that.

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    It is definitely a disorder. Science backs this up. Drugs and substances make you dependent on them. Addiction also has a psychological aspect in most cases--your brain literally becomes dependent and only produces endorphins in response to the object of your addiction. It takes for-freaking-ever to recover from, and basically gives you severe clinical depression.
    For the record, you can be addicted to anything that gives you some sort of high, even if that high is just enjoyment. People can be addicted to sex, video games, gambling, etc, not just drugs.

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    Fantastic. Much respect to you and others who have walked away from these things.

    As Paul said, "that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God."

    They key there is the word "were." Paul did not say that what some of you are. You are now greedy Christians, slanderer Christians, drunkard Christians, swindler Christians.
     
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    He has written a couple books

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    That is the excuse that is used, yes.
     
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    Actually they don't—not if you don't try them in the first place. That's the sin part.

    The irony is, many former addicts will admit this. Wondering why you won't.
     
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    Sin is addictive.
    To become dependent on a substance, you have to first use it. Unless you were injected with it while unconscious, your choice. You choose sin, it gets its hooks in you.
     
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    I wasn't addicted to drugs and substances. I had something akin to video game addiction--video games aren't evil, sand they aren't inherently addictive
    My addiction left me suicidal and with severe depression that lasted for years before going away

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    If your parents tell you not to play too many video games and you ignore them and get addicted, that's sin.

    Are you saying you never acted out on your attractions?
     
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    What were you addicted to? Not following you.
     
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    I literally said several posts above that I believe I was sinning when I was addicted and during my addiction, but sure. Let's pretend I didn't. That doesn't mean it wasn't a disease wherein my bodily and brain functions were working against me in and extreme and severe way.

    And yes, I've never once acted on my same sex attractions. I've had crushes on women, but knew better.

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    A tv show. I literally went through withdrawal whenever I wasn't watching the show. I would get severely depressed, increasingly so the longer I was away from it. And the moment I watched it? Euphoria, doubting I had a problem at all and feeling giddy. It was a viscous cycle that only made my mental health deteriorate more and more the longer it went on.

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    A bad show?
     
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