Spiritual Death ,The Remedy, The Restoration of Sacred Space

Adam's fall into spiritual and physical death resulted in All mankind being conceived, physically alive , mentally alert, but spiritually dead.
That fall left man alienated from the life of God, without hope, and without God in the world.
God has an eternal plan to restore that sacred space and it is being unfolded and made known to the Church.
Eph.3:8-11.
The Church that assembles in the Heavenly Zion and Jerusalem on the last day will be the culmination of that plan.

 

Thanks for your response.
This thread is not dealing with this earth or what happens to it.
It will be dealing with what is described as Sacred Space.
That will be shown to be the place of God's intentions regarding His relationship with His creation,and in particular His image bearers.
The second Peter3 passage does indicate the location and the subjects of this restoration of sacred space.
There is some question as to the details of it, and that could be enjoyable to consider.

 

That passage does not use that term.
The passage speaks of God's eternal purpose, which was from ages ago, being made known to the Church.
It is examining the whole revelation of God in all 66 books that we see what God has purposed for His Covenant Sons.

 

Itl,
Try Acts 3:20-21.

 

Correct.

 

Sometimes sections of scripture do focus on a specific concern such as you mentioned in the gentiles coming in on equal footing as Israelites.

Other times God has the writers give an indication of The overall purpose Accomplished at the cross, and on into the eternal state.

 

In an article called an idol called evangelism and it's remedy,
Ray Hargrave said it this way.
But now God's Redemptive purpose has supplied the necessary knowledge where man is illuminated by spiritual conviction. He is also secured by new birth to desire Above All Else the highest good, which is God glorified and enjoyed Forever by his redeemed.
Such mighty work produces the necessary conversion, which involves turning away from sin that is repentance and turning to Salvation that is Faith found in Christ alone.
Such Solace and peace are eternally established in that Soul, which Discover it through Grace. He experiences Christ as his own Sabbath rest.
Once again we see the two concepts of peace and rest established .

 

Exactly...Jesus rules as Lord of Lords, and King of kings in the midst of His enemies and on into the eternal state.

 

JonC,

There are no problems with the Op at all.

No we are just going to go with the orthodox understanding. men sinned and died in Adam.Spiritual death, resulting in Physical death.

Yes...you do believe that, which we know is error, but we support your right to be wrong. In fact, you have an open thread on 1cor 15....so you can discuss that over there.
This thread is not looking to go there.

No...we do not agree with you once again. God has given us all we need that pertains to life and godliness.

[QUOTE]Third, the idea of redemption as a remedy is problematic.

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Not to millions of Christians;
19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?

20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.

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No, His death Was A Covenant death for the elect.

You have misread the OP.Again

Not really.

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No link I quote is going to be pagan, or RC, or Gnostic
You can start a thread on any and all of these topics if you want, but those are not being spoken of here.

 

yes...Roy A. Hargrave...Ormond beach Fla. Riverbend Community church

This presentation is scripture driven. From the first thread


b. But the point here is to note the correlation of Eden with the “mountain of God.” Assuming a legitimate symbolic aspect to Ezekiel 28, when compared with the corresponding Exodus passages it spotlights what is indirectly evident from the creation narrative, namely that Eden – as sacred space – represented the place of divine/human encounter. Exodus calls Horeb the “mountain of God,” and it was there that God met with Moses, the sons of Israel, and later Ezekiel. But this concept is also associated with Eden, implying that, in the initial creation, it was the place of divine/human interaction. This conclusion is supported by details within the first three chapters of Genesis, as will be seen.

1]Obviously any who just want to oppose biblical thought will never see these kinds of things or get close to truth on this. They look to secular history, or philosophy to explain away truth.

2]Obviously some will declare we cannot know truth, but they can state whatever they want, and believe or not believe what is offered.

 

This is a double post.

 

This global salvation was to be effected through the Servant’s work of vicarious atonement (53:1-12) and, as a result of it, Zion (symbolizing Yahweh’s covenant wife who bears children for him – ref. 50:1; also Hosea 2:1-23) would be restored from her desolation.

In her restoration she would then gather in the innumerable “children” of the covenant Lord secured for Him by the atoning work of His Servant (54:1-17).

The focal point of the Servant’s work in Isaiah’s prophecy is the recovery to God of estranged mankind.


But, in keeping with the fact that the curse extended to the whole creation, Isaiah showed that work of recovery to reach beyond man to embrace the entire created order.
Through His Servant, Yahweh would vanquish the curse and usher in a new creation (cf. 65:1-25, 66:5-24 with 11:1-10).

14 Behold, my servants shall sing for joy of heart, but ye shall cry for sorrow of heart, and shall howl for vexation of spirit.

15 And ye shall leave your name for a curse unto my chosen: for the Lord God shall slay thee, and call his servants by another name:

16 That he who blesseth himself in the earth shall bless himself in the God of truth; and he that sweareth in the earth shall swear by the God of truth; because the former troubles are forgotten, and because they are hid from mine eyes.

17 For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.

18 But be ye glad and rejoice for ever in that which I create: for, behold, I create Jerusalem a rejoicing, and her people a joy.

19 And I will rejoice in Jerusalem, and joy in my people: and the voice of weeping shall be no more heard in her, nor the voice of crying.

20 There shall be no more thence an infant of days, nor an old man that hath not filled his days: for the child shall die an hundred years old; but the sinner being an hundred years old shall be accursed.

21 And they shall build houses, and inhabit them; and they shall plant vineyards, and eat the fruit of them.

22 They shall not build, and another inhabit; they shall not plant, and another eat: for as the days of a tree are the days of my people, and mine elect shall long enjoy the work of their hands.

23 They shall not labour in vain, nor bring forth for trouble; for they are the seed of the blessed of the Lord, and their offspring with them.

24 And it shall come to pass, that before they call, I will answer; and while they are yet speaking, I will hear.

25 The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock: and dust shall be the serpent's meat. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, saith the Lord.