Featured Paul's Model for Soul Winning

Just keeping the thread on topic.
Jesus taught all this in Lk.24...but according to some, everyone knows what is in there.
Lk24:25-27
Jesus the living word,expounded scripture.
Verse 27 says and beginning at Moses and all the prophets expounded to them and all the scriptures the things concerning himself.
And then again in verse 44 I said unto them those are the words which I spoke to you while I was still with you that all things must be fulfilled which were written in the law of Moses the prophets and the Psalms concerning me and he opened their understanding that they might comprehend the scriptures. In verse 46 to 49 he explains that they are going to be his Witnesses of these things

 

Paul instructs Timothy to guard the deposit....that would be scripture and doctrine.
He is going to continue to train him in using them in the Kingdom.
In 2nd Timothy 2:13-14 Paul reminds Timothy hold fast the pattern of sound words would you have heard from me and faith and love which are in Christ Jesus the good things which was committed to you keep by the Holy Spirit who dwells in us that good thing which was committed to you keep by the Holy Spirit who dwells in us. That's the deposit of scripture and teaching that Paul had communicated to him .
He tell him to keep it so that when he goes out that presents the gospel it will prosper.

 

Paul continues and 2nd Timothy 2 and is an versus wanted to you you therefore my son be strong in the grace that is in Christ Jesus. And the things that you have heard from me among many witnesses commit these to faithful men who will be able to teach others also so put he had heard Paul had heard Paul preach and teach from the scripture. Is basically instructing him in this pattern where not only is Timothy supposed to learn scripture for him solve and others around them but then that they could present the gospel and reproduce disciples who also understand how to do this

 

Paul continues from verse 8 down to verse 16 he "about Jesus he says hes preaching these things so that the unsaved who are elect ,will also obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory .
He says to Timothy to instruct ,remind them of these things charging them before the Lord not to strive about words with no profit to the ruin of the hearers .
be diligent to present yourself approved of God a worker who does not need to be ashamed rightly dividing the word of truth but shun profane and idle babblings for they will increase on to more on ungodliness.

Many times when a work of God is taking place ,the truth of God is going forth, there will be these people described here as profane idle babblings profane idle babblers and they strive to words with no profit, but to the ruin of the hearers.
There are some people that just try to disrupt anything positive that's going on towards Kingdom work or in the Kingdom itself and these people we are told to avoid them. the Apostles and Paul has had dealings with these same kind of people no matter what the topic they find ways to resist and oppose it
He say's these are to be avoided ,these kind of people

 

Most of us cannot agree with your post.

Paul's method was not to have a rigid method but to be all things to all men as he defined.it.
Van was much closer to it then you.
In every case Paul used scripture as His authority, unless God spoke directly
to him or a nt.prophet.

 

"JonC

Where did I say that a method is necessary?
It is obvious to any who read the thread that Paul had a method.it has been shown scripturally.

Only you are suggesting a gimmick or crutch is being used

 

Where did I use the word Necessary?
I see a clear model you do not. THAT'S OKAY.
You do not have to see it.
You might never see it.
In the other thread, you inserted the word,Superior.
I did not use it, you tried to insert it and change the argument.
It is there, people have read it.
I am just shining a flashlight on it.

 

JonC, .

I do not believe in censorship,I am not your judge as to what you find funny.
I quoted from Jesus before and you found that funny? Whatever floats your boat.

Yes. What I believe in particular is not the topic of this thread, and I do not think you sincerely want an answer, however, there might be those who welcome instruction on this.

Jesus taught that people will be judged by the word,jn12;
46 I am come a light into the world, that whosoever believeth on me should not abide in darkness.

47 And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.

48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.

Jesus himself established the word of God as authoritative. How are unsaved people going to be saved apart from a biblical view of scripture?

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Jesus taught Paul, why would it change at all?
11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.

12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.

13 For ye have heard of my conversation in time past in the Jews' religion, how that beyond measure I persecuted the church of God, and wasted it:

14 And profited in the Jews' religion above many my equals in mine own nation, being more exceedingly zealous of the traditions of my fathers.

15 But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother's womb, and called me by his grace,

16 To reveal his Son in me, that I might preach him among the heathen; immediately I conferred not with flesh and blood:

17 Neither went I up to Jerusalem to them which were apostles before me; but I went into Arabia, and returned again unto Damascus.

18 Then after three years I went up to Jerusalem to see Peter, and abode with him fifteen days.

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There is no direct command so I did not say it was necessary.
I have found from actually doing evangelism and seeing Paul's model and the method of the Apostles in scripture, that it is imperative to establish the greatest gift God has given and left us with...His word written for us.
Through that word we learn about all Spiritual truth ,and how God brings new birth;
23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

24 For all flesh is as grass, and all the glory of man as the flower of grass. The grass withereth, and the flower thereof falleth away:

25 But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you.

JonC....you can offer your philosophy or cartoons, jokes, puppet shows...you are free to offer what you want. I will establish the word of
God first and go from there.

That is what I see in and others see in scripture. You have clearly not seen it.

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No one can really say that, but you have disparaged the idea to a point that I would never go in. If you went much further you would be keeping John Shelby Spong company,

You stick to whatever you want to, Sorry I cannot help you.
I do not post here for that reason.

 

Now when it comes to what is termed Soul winning, many many people have used and continued use biblical tracts that have scripture all over them.
One of the more successful tracts is known as the Romans Road.
Most of us have given it out ,read it ,or seen others use it.
The reason it gets used is because it's an attempt to use Paul's writings as he goes over scripture to unfold the problem of man sin, the God given solution in the Lord Jesus Christ and the expectant hope or result of a person who sees their sin and sees the need of the Lord Jesus Christ save them from their sins. Now does the Romans road show the complete Road well that's another question that's up with the Up For Debate. Of course any track has maybe positives a lot of them have a lot of negatives but that's not what we talking about here .
We are talking about is the person who came up with the Romans road knew enough from studying their Bible to see that Paul had a certain method and way he presented gospel truth and presented the message that leads to Salvation ,the message of the Gospel According to the scriptures.

 

Reformed, good post that I will respond to in a few hours when I get on my laptop.
I would like to focus on the concern about establishing the scriptures as the word of God to those who are outside the faith.
I was obviously not suggesting we in any way make, or transform the scripture into the authoritative word of God...
It already is as God sends it down Isa.55.
I would like to develop this clearly which I will from my laptop.