Featured ¶John answered and said, A man can receive nothing, except it be given him from heaven.

Many ways are false today. Jesus taught Amillennialism (No Millennium) as the one true way.

 

You are doing the same thing you accuse the Creeds of doing. Why should I believe you when I have centuries of compiled study offered by the Church?

 

Did God intend the death of Jesus to bring real salvation or potential salvation?

 

Big difference is that scriptures alone were inspired!

 

Nope, the earliest Christians also held to a form of preMil!

 

But you quote them and tell others what they mean. Why not the Church?

 

Jesus did not. And Peter preached the gospel of the kingdom (Amillennial) at Pentecost. Most had to learn the truth after being deceived by the Pharisees. Even the Apostles took time. But we have no excuse for siding with the Pharisees and rejecting Jesus today.

 

Only until they learned the truth.

 

strange, as that view held until Augustine time, when Amil view became dominant as the Catholic view!

 

The Catholics, like many we know, departed from the creeds and believe exactly like anyone who believes in free will. Also, their Jesuits trained you in your premillennialism if you are a Dispensationalist. Antichrist still sits in the temple of God through his false teachers and doctrines.

 

I am a Covenant Theology PreMil!

 

Premillennialism rejects Christ's teaching on the Kingdom and sides with the Pharisees. The Church condemned it as heresy at several points in the creeds. Covenant theology has no basis in scripture. It is a theory the Reformed placed over scripture to make it conform to their ideas.

 

So you would place the Creeds on par with scriptures then, as you seem to be getting your theology from them?

 

I trust what creeds say until proven wrong. I trust them more than anyone not familiar with them or not in line with them.

 

Same as scriptures to you?

 

Of course not. But they tell us what scriptures say after debating them with some of the best heretics and winning.

 

Those holding to such as premil and Dispy are not heretics! As both can be supported by Scriptures....

 

You can support this only if you ignore Jesus. Or do not understand him. He says only those who are born again can see the kingdom.

 

Both premil and Dispy know Jesus as Lord!

 

I hate to have to tell you this, but your theory requires Jesus Christ, as the Perfect Eternal Second Person of The Godhead to Come to Earth, Virgin Born, Live Perfect under God's Universal Moral Law, Be Crucified, Buried, and Rise Again, EVEN IF NNE EVER CHOSE to BECOME SAVED and EVERY SOUL, INCLUDING ADAM WENT to HELL and BURNED, FOREVER.

NO WAY AROUND IT.

Irrational, Illogical, ridiculous musings of a mind reasoning with a brain effected by The CURSE of SIN.

Sorry.

Eternally off.