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Do you believe 'something', or 'nothing'?

Discussion in 'Calvinism & Arminianism Debate' started by Alan Gross, Oct 28, 2020.

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  1. Alan Gross

    Alan Gross Well-Known Member

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    Is there anything more than that to the "Calvinism & Arminianism Debate"?

    If so, what is it?
     
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    Lk 1 :1-4 is quoted In the introduction to the 1689 cof.
     
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    The understanding that the names of all mankind begin in the Lamb's book of life.
     
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    If there is a book you are talking about with names in it that can be blotted out, you are talking about a book with names of the living in it and if blotted out, they die.

    Nothing about Spiritual life or death.

    Nothing is the word.
     
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    That is one interpretation. There is a promise found in Revelation 3:5, ". . . and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, . . ." And those who end up in the lake of fire do not have their names in the book, Revelation 20:15.
     
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    If an 'interpretation' that assumes a Chosen Elect child of God, who are of Abraham's Spiritual Seed "could be" blotted out of Salvation, or that The Godhead's Eternal Plan of Salvation is willy-nilly, prone for failure, and God Doesn't Know them who He Has Chosen, then that 'interpretation' is based on the 'nothing' of 'thinking that', when there is no TEACHING that Abraham's Spiritual Seed "could be" blotted out of Salvation in The WORDS, themselves.
     
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    Again, you are working from an interpertation, which is different from my understanding. As I said I hold a view all names start out in the Lamb's book of life. Also I will add here that in my view I also hold that the elect will receive the promise of Revelation 3:5.
     
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    So, then, that is not the interpretation. Being impossible, it is not possible.

    Try another interpretation, until you get a possible one.

    'all names start out in the Lambs book of life' is still arguing from silence and an impossible nothing, unless it means, "those alive"; not Elect.
     
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    Give me your opinion on little children who die before an age where they can believe in Christ, 1 John 5:1. How are their names in the book of life, Revelation 20:15?
     
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