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I found some newspapers advertisements in the 70s, in which, for example, fundamentalist churches advertised "we preach the King James Bible only."
I have read vague statements, but not seen any specific supporting evidence.I have seen a couple claims that KJV-only authors make about the origin of the term, but they do not seem to have done sound research concerning its origin.
David Cloud claimed: “The term ‘King James Only’ was invented by those who oppose the defense of the King James Bible and its underlying Hebrew and Greek texts” (Bible Version Question/Answer, p. 7; Answering the Myths, p. 5). Lloyd Streeter maintained that the term KJV-only “arose later [after 1967] as a term of derision” (Seventy-five Problems, p. 18). Phil Stringer asserted: “I don’t like the term ‘King James Only.’ It is a name given to us by our critics” and yet he himself chose to “use the term so that it is clear who I am talking about” (Unbroken Bible, p. 9).
Neither David Cloud nor Phil Stringer provided any sound, documented evidence to prove their claims about who invented the term to be true.
I am open to either possibility, and looking to see if there is any proof supporting whether the terminology was first pejoratively used by its opponents, or early embraced by those advancing the King James cause.According to your observation, it may have been KJV-only advocates themselves that in effect used the term to describe their own position.
Thanks. This one appears to be used as a term to describe one's belief of the Bible, and more advanced in that regard than churches using similar wording to advertise in the newspaper what their churches are like (though the advertisement might be a clue that such churches could have also used the terminology otherwise.Herb Evans referred to “the King James only position” in 1980 (Flaming Torch, June, 1980, p. 3). Herb Evans' articles were usually printed earlier in Peter Ruckman's Bible Believers' Bulletin.
It is quite possible to research the original use of the term, as well as the accuracy of the term. The two pursuits are not mutually exclusive. Further, I think finding the first uses of the term could shed some light on the evolution of the term into what it stands for today (e.g. White, The Kings James Only Controversy, pp. 23-28).The more important matter would not be who first used the term, but whether the term is as an accurate one for describing overall a certain view or position. This term has value or worth in its ability to communicate meaning concerning a certain view so that even KJV-only author Phil Stringer choose to use it to be clear in regard to which group or groups that he was referring. Phil Stringer would use this term to identify those whom he described as “fundamentalist, King James Only Baptists” (Unbroken Bible, p. 57).
I'm not sure of its origin either.I have been searching for, and so far have not found, the origin of the use of the term "King James Only."
The first time I ever heard or read of the term was sometime in the late 1990's, and it was from the opposing position.Does anyone know of the case of its first use?
I suspect you may be on to something, but I've never really looked into it deeply.About the earliest I have found, used in the sense and way we normally use "King James Only" today, is in the late 1970s and early 80s. I found some newspapers advertisements in the 70s, in which, for example, fundamentalist churches advertised "we preach the King James Bible only."
What is the context and significance of the 1967 date used here? Thanks.Lloyd Streeter maintained that the term KJV-only “arose later [after 1967] as a term of derision” (Seventy-five Problems, p. 18).
We do not use the term to put down, its just that the term is now associated with pretty much what those holding to the KJVO advocate!I'm not sure of its origin either.
The first time I ever heard or read of the term was sometime in the late 1990's, and it was from the opposing position.
I suspect you may be on to something, but I've never really looked into it deeply.
But I do recognize that most who use it ( especially nowadays ), do so in a derogatory manner.
Interesting read!I have been searching for, and so far have not found, the origin of the use of the term "King James Only." I wonder if any of you have ever done any research of that? Does anyone know of the case of its first use?
Thanks.
I think there's a lot of confusion with the term,We do not use the term to put down, its just that the term is now associated with pretty much what those holding to the KJVO advocate!
I understand. It is used in many different ways, by both opponents and proponents of the view. I am interested in determining how it first got started.We do not use the term to put down, its just that the term is now associated with pretty much what those holding to the KJVO advocate!
Yes. I think the term breeds confusion, when it has such a range of meaning (or supposed meaning). I think it is sincerely used most of the time just as a descriptor, but that it also has polemic value that some exploit.I think there's a lot of confusion with the term,
and I've seen many on just this forum that appear to lump everyone who advocates the TR and KJV over the CT and the newer English translations as all being in the same mindset and using the same rhetoric...
Thanks. If you ever run across anything, please let me know.I wish you success in your search.
What did you think of the 1611 web site view on the KJVO link?I understand. It is used in many different ways, by both opponents and proponents of the view. I am interested in determining how it first got started. Yes. I think the term breeds confusion, when it has such a range of meaning (or supposed meaning). I think it is sincerely used most of the time just as a descriptor, but that it also has polemic value that some exploit. Thanks. If you ever run across anything, please let me know.
Well, I think it has some legitimacy, in the sense that King James and others did want to unite the country around one Bible. However, "King James Only" wasn't terminology anyone used to describe that idea in that day. "Authorised Version" is the preferred English terminology for this Bible, while "King James" is more American.What did you think of the 1611 web site view on the KJVO link?
I think there's a lot of confusion with the term,
and I've seen many on just this forum that appear to lump everyone who advocates the TR and KJV over the CT and the newer English translations as all being in the same mindset and using the same rhetoric...
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In his 2001 book, Lloyd L. Streeter does not explain why he chose the date of 1967. He claimed that "in 1967 no one used the term 'King James Only'", but he does not say why he picked that date.What is the context and significance of the 1967 date used here? Thanks.
Yes. I think the term breeds confusion, when it has such a range of meaning (or supposed meaning). .
The name Baptist has a much longer standing than KJV-Only and a clearer core meaning that unites the various groups -- and yet we still add modifiers and double-modifiers to distinguish between various camps of Baptists -- Independent Fundametal, Southern, Missionary, Reformed, Regular, Old Regular, Primitive, Free Will, and so on -- in order to be clear. Perhaps KJVO could use some better and more distinguishable modifiers. To be sure, some of the problem is the loose way that people use the term, and perhaps they don't understand the significance -- and the differences. It doesn't take much looking on BB to find folks who talk about all variations of KJVO as if it is is one unified camp without differences.I do not think that the term KJV-only breeds confusion anymore than the term Baptist breeds confusion.
There are differences in doctrine in different groups of Baptists, and yet the term Baptist is correctly and accurately used for those different groups of Baptists with some different in doctrine. The same is true with the different groups or camps of KJV-only. Because they may use different arguments for their KJV-only claims does not mean that one group is KJV-only and the other group is not KJV-only. Varying groups that make exclusive only claims for the KJV are still correctly identified as being KJV-only regardless of any differences between those groups just as groups of Baptists with some differences in doctrine are still correctly identified as being Baptist. Because there may be different KJV-only camps does not mean that the term KJV-only has a range of meaning since it could still be accurately used to identify those who make exclusive only claims for only one English Bible translation..
"Authorised Version" is the preferred English terminology for this Bible, while "King James" is more American.
Your post suggests that you may have spent some time debating some folks who think the term "Authorized" is important to defending the "King James Only" position. Otherwise, I am not sure how to understand your reply. That issue "makes me no nevermind." It can be an interesting historical inquiry, but makes no difference to me as being important in the versions debate. Apparently it does to some people.That may be true today or in the 1900's, but it may not have been the terminology for it in the 1600's or 1700's.
I have read some historical sources that suggest that the KJV was called "King James' translation" or a similar name before it was called the authorized version.