The Elephant in the Room.

Since this will be new information, it is kept brief. This is the Elephant in the Church today

2 Tim. 3:16 uses theopneustos, translated "inspiration" or "God breathed," to describe Scripture. Theopneustos is derived from pneo, "to breathe hard, to blow."

The other place "inspiration" appears in Scripture is Job 32:8, "There is a spirit in man: the inspiration of the Almighty giveth them understanding." The word used is nshamah, "a puff of wind, vital breath, spirit," equivalent to theopneustos.

When God created the Earth, the Text uses awmar, "to say, certify, command, declare, demand." When God spoke to Moses etal. The Text uses dabar, "to speak, declare, command, pronounce, appoint." When Jesus spoke to people the Text uses lego, "to speak, relate, say." Hebrews 12:25 uses the Text to state God has lalo, "spoken, uttered words."

By comparing these definitions of words, it is clear that Paul's theopneustos/"God breathed" in 2 Tim. 3:16 is not the same as the uttered speech of God in the Old Testament. The Torah and Prophets were indeed overtly self identified as the spoken Word of God. But, the "Scripture" identified by Paul cannot be the spoken Word of God because it is only "breathed." Breathing is not "speaking."

Before you get upset, let me state Paul most likely did not have at hand the Gospels or Luke's material, all which had the Words of Jesus directly from The Father, and cited from the Torah and Prophets. Jesus did speak the uttered Word of God. John's Revelation is the self identified, uttered Word of God.

Therefore, God did not literally speak His Word through the Apostles, Luke, and Paul other than when they quoted Jesus. Rather, God "breathed" His spirit of discernment and life upon the NT writers, just as stated by Job. Hence, Apostle Peter calls the writings of Paul "wisdom," and not specifically The Word of God. Paul's wisdom is instructive for discerment and doctrine spoken today, but are not Commands of God.

 

By using the word "theopneustos," Paul correctly distinguished between wisdom of Men from the spoken Word of God.

Please understand God has indeed Divinely preseved and disseminated The Bible for us. It is crucial for the Gospel and the Church. We just should not assume all of Paul's teachings are literally the Word of God for every Christian to literally obey. Just as the Mosaic Law, even as The Word of God, is not for Gentiles to obey.

For instance, in 1 Timothy 2:8-15 are Paul's instructions about Women keeping silent in church. Is that God's Command for us today?

Just answer without getting upset.

 

As Paul "commanded," Should women in the Church remain silent? Yes? No? Just answer without waffling around. Step up with Godly Substance.

 

Are you trying to say you do obey all of Jesus' Commands? Just answer. Or, do you choose?

 

Did I indicate I do not accept this? No. Imaginary thoughts are not Godly.

 

Stop talking about me. Making personal comments does not address any part of the issue here.

Inspiration is not the spoken Word of God.

Intelligence and integrity to you.

 

What makes you think I am fighting against the Word of God? Your lazy reading comprehension? Read what I wrote, not what your personality dictates.

Learn to discuss this material without being white knuckled, and getting personal. Grow up in The Lord.

 

Do you "obey" all of what Paul wrote? Yes? No? Afraid to say?

 

All of what God revealed through the history of His governance of Israel is for the Redeemed today to know being preordained and "chosen," as was Israel, amounts to failure and nonsense.

Proof lies in the fact that the word "faith" appears only twice in the OT. Deut. 32:20 and Hab. 2:4. Rather than demonstrating in Israel the need for "faith," God showed how blessings through pragmatic obedience was a dead end result. The Law was a failure because of the "frowardness" of human hearts.

"For they are a very froward generation, children in whom is no faith." (Moses speaking in Deut. 32:20)

Later, Jeremiah speaks of rebellious Judah before the Captivity, "They that handle the Law knew me not." (Jer. 2:8)

"Froward" means: "not easily controlled, stubbornly willful, contrary, adverse."

The opposite is "a broken and contrite heart." (Psalm 52:17, Isaiah 66:2)

These are froward people:

1.) Calvinists with their TULIP Doctrines.
2.) Mouthy white knuckled Bible pounders.
3.) Demanding and unsubmissive Women.
4.) Heathen pursuing self interests.
5.) Those who seek wealth and prosperity.
6.) Those with weak listening skills and thereby run their mouths as a first response. (See Proverbs)
7.) Those who strut around with their macho personalities and manly hobbies.
8.) Babbling and loud preachers full of rhetoric manipulations.
9.) Christians who pray for restoring America to its previous state of World dominance.
10.) Those who misquote others in order to mouth their personal minor litanies. Lol.

"Inspiration" is loved by those who worship the endless talk of Paul, yet strangely cannot perform what Paul "commands." They remain oblivious to 1 Cor. 7:12, "Speak I (Paul), not the Lord." So true, as Paul paints his rambling "inspiration" over all of God's Word.