What is Catholicism?

[utilyan]

Are we not already pure by being washed in the blood of the Lamb?

Sure just float to heaven if you are pure. Death is not a requirement for entering heaven.

And if you are not allowed into heaven right now....... you can ask Jesus "what's up with that?"

 

[Yeshua1]

Sure just float to heaven if you are pure. Death is not a requirement for entering heaven.

And if you are not allowed into heaven right now....... you can ask Jesus "what's up with that?"

I will be accepted by God based upon being found in Christ period!

 

[utilyan]

I will be accepted by God based upon being found in Christ period!

Will be.

 

[Yeshua1]

Will be.

At my physical death or at Second Coming, whichever happens first!

 

[atpollard]

Does the Antichrist Pope still sit in the Temple of Christendom?

No? (what is the correct answer if the Pope was never the "man of Lawlessness" from end time prophecy?)
The "Antichrist" as understood in end time prophecy should be a lot more impressive than the Pope.

How many of his doctrines do you believe?

Personally, none.
A "good Catholic" is only expected to believe the Doctrines of the Church and the 'ex cathedra' statements of the Pope.

Has the current Pope (Francis) even made any 'ex cathedra' statements?

 

[atpollard]

Has the current Pope (Francis) even made any 'ex cathedra' statements?

I found the answer. The last 'ex cathedra' statement was by Pope Pius XII (1854):

.. by the authority of our Lord Jesus Christ, of the Blessed Apostles Peter and Paul, and by our own authority, we pronounce, declare, and define it to be a divinely revealed dogma:

that the Immaculate Mother of God, the ever Virgin Mary, having completed the course of her earthly life, was assumed body and soul into heavenly glory.

Hence if anyone, which God forbid, should dare willfully to deny or to call into doubt that which we have defined, let him know that he has fallen away completely from the divine and Catholic Faith.
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So that was the last thing that a Pope said that all Catholics MUST believe (because the Pope said it).

 

[1689Dave]

No? (what is the correct answer if the Pope was never the "man of Lawlessness" from end time prophecy?)
The "Antichrist" as understood in end time prophecy should be a lot more impressive than the Pope.


Personally, none.
A "good Catholic" is only expected to believe the Doctrines of the Church and the 'ex cathedra' statements of the Pope.

Has the current Pope (Francis) even made any 'ex cathedra' statements?

Churches are full of Antichrist doctrine today. Meaning he still sits as god in the Temple of God. Can you recognize Papal doctrine in your church?

 

[atpollard]

Churches are full of Antichrist doctrine today. Meaning he still sits as god in the Temple of God. Can you recognize Papal doctrine in your church?

Small "a" for "antichrist" ... meaning anyone or anything that opposes Christ.

Give me an example of "Papal doctrine" to beware of in a Baptist church.

• There is no effort to change from Credobaptism (believer's baptism) to Paedobaptism (infant baptism).
• No one is arguing for the "real presence" on the Eucharist rather than a symbolic "do this in memory of me".
• No one is advocating for Bishops over multiple congregations to limit the local autonomy.
• No one is claiming water baptism is not an outward sign of an inner change that has already taken place.

• There are people that advocate an equal role for women, but the Pope rejects such a policy, so that is not a "Papal doctrine".
• There are those who seek to use God as a slot machine to get wealthy, but I have never heard the Pope preach a "Prosperity Gospel".

So what "Papal doctrine" are you thinking of?

 

[utilyan]

At my physical death or at Second Coming, whichever happens first!

I'm pretty sure God accepted you already, God love you, so do I.

 

[Yeshua1]

I'm pretty sure God accepted you already, God love you, so do I.

Unless in Christ though, doomed to eternal Hell!

 

[Titus Tarnum]

I will be accepted by God based upon being found in Christ period!

Yes! Phil 3:9and be found in him, not having a righteousness of my own that comes from the law, but that which comes through faith in Christ, the righteousness from God that depends on faith—ESV


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[Yeshua1]

Yes! Phil 3:9and be found in him, not having a righteousness of my own that comes from the law, but that which comes through faith in Christ, the righteousness from God that depends on faith—ESV


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Thus no need to have purgatory to "make me ready"

 

[utilyan]

Thus no need to have purgatory to "make me ready"

Scripture says only pure enters heaven, not things just called pure.

People are not going to go to heaven with handicap T-shirts. They will be genuinely Good and Pure.

On earth maybe one sins 2-3 times a day, month, year, hour, etc. Heaven its ZERO no sin.

You still in charge of your behavior in heaven, its not a clone or robot and you sit back gee look how sinless I am.

All defects which are OBVIOUSLY impure like poor eyesight for example ARE GONE, before you step into heaven. If you get fixed AT heaven it would be different, But you can't even ENTER heaven til pure.

 

[utilyan]

Whats kind of a ironic most Calvinist including some non-Cals here would swear up and down we have a "SIN NATURE". Wouldn't that obviously have to be cleansed away before entering heaven?

 

[atpollard]

Whats kind of a ironic most Calvinist including some non-Cals here would swear up and down we have a "SIN NATURE". Wouldn't that obviously have to be cleansed away before entering heaven?

Yup.

1 Corinthians 15:50-52 [NKJV]

50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; nor does corruption inherit incorruption. 51 Behold, I tell you a mystery: We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed-- 52 in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.​

 

[1689Dave]

Small "a" for "antichrist" ... meaning anyone or anything that opposes Christ.

Give me an example of "Papal doctrine" to beware of in a Baptist church.

• There is no effort to change from Credobaptism (believer's baptism) to Paedobaptism (infant baptism).
• No one is arguing for the "real presence" on the Eucharist rather than a symbolic "do this in memory of me".
• No one is advocating for Bishops over multiple congregations to limit the local autonomy.
• No one is claiming water baptism is not an outward sign of an inner change that has already taken place.

• There are people that advocate an equal role for women, but the Pope rejects such a policy, so that is not a "Papal doctrine".
• There are those who seek to use God as a slot machine to get wealthy, but I have never heard the Pope preach a "Prosperity Gospel".

So what "Papal doctrine" are you thinking of?

Baptism in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit is of Papal origin. The Church always baptized in the name of Jesus Christ. Free Will is another Papal doctrine. Dispensationalism is a Jesuit creation to deceive Protestants from thinking the Papacy is Antichrist. Organs, Pews, Altars, stained glass, etc .......

 

[37818]

Baptism in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit is of Papal origin. . . .

Matthew 28:19, ". . . baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit: . . ."

 

[1689Dave]

Matthew 28:19, ". . . baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit: . . ."

If you study this passage, Peter and those who heard Jesus always baptized in the name of Jesus Christ. They missed the meaning altogether not discerning Jesus' command.
“Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.” Acts 2:38 (KJV 1900)

Jesus Christ is the name of the trinity.

 

[atpollard]

Baptism in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit is of Papal origin. The Church always baptized in the name of Jesus Christ. Free Will is another Papal doctrine. Dispensationalism is a Jesuit creation to deceive Protestants from thinking the Papacy is Antichrist. Organs, Pews, Altars, stained glass, etc .......

I have absolutely no problem with people that want to baptize in the name of Jesus Christ (only), or with people that want to baptize in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.
I disagree with ‘Free Will’ (being a Particular Baptist), but do not view those that hold to cooperation in their salvation as ‘antichrists’.
Dispensationalism was popularized by Scofield (who was not a Jesuit) and has some valid scriptural observations about the past dispensations of God’s Grace even as it makes questionable assumptions about eschatology.
Those that use, and those that abstain from “organs, pews, altars and stained glass” both do so according to 1 Corinthians 10:31 and “to the glory of God”, so I am in full support of the body of Christ doing anything to the glory of God.

I even accept YOUR views as your attempt to somehow bring glory to God by abhorring what you believe God abhors; I just cannot see the evil in an organ playing “Amazing Grace” to a room full of people praising Christ that believe that He could snatch them out of this world at any moment and begin pouring the wrath of God on the ungodly.

 

[37818]

If you study this passage, Peter and those who heard Jesus always baptized in the name of Jesus Christ. They missed the meaning altogether not discerning Jesus' command.
“Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.” Acts 2:38 (KJV 1900)

Jesus Christ is the name of the trinity.

You are arguing an interpertation. Bear in mind the interpretation by many Baptists of actually using the words in the "name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit" is being understood to mean being done in the name of Jesus Christ per His instruction as recorded in Matthew 28:19 too.