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The word trinity which they say is never mentioned?

 

Right from the beginning of scripture it does and some may have trouble with it but I don't!... The first chapter of Genesis tell us in no uncertain terms there is a Godhead... I tell those who disagree, argue with scripture because it couldn't be any plainer... Brother Glen

Genesis 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

Btw... Who is US?

 

This reminds me of the organization AIG (Answers In Genesis). Genesis is the foundation, the footwork for everything that follows the rest of the Bible. That most answers can be found in the first 11 chapters of Genesis. Is worth checking out if you have any questions.

 

Everyone engages in textual criticism whether you know it or not. Every single person involved in "a" Textus Receptus was a textual critic. They all practiced textual criticism. Erasmus, Stephanus, and Beza! The King James Translators practiced textual criticism. Other KJV editors that came after the original ones changed readings practicing textual criticism. You yourself practice textual criticism. Just the most primitive form, whatever your particular edition of the KJV you happen to use you think it is right verses all the others.

You are a textual critic, because you had to choose one reading over another one. God does not want you to be in the dark about how the Bible came to us, nor is there any reason to be afraid of variations in the Bible. They exist. They happened. Even between different editions of the KJV there are variations.

You seem like someone that cares about Gods word. But if all you do is think that the KJV is always right even in the face of overwhelming evidence then perhaps not as much as it appears.

May God lead and teach you in his word.

 

The Father, The Son, The Holy Spirit.

 

Explain ?

 

I'll make a note of that!... Thank you!... Some tell me you need to read other translations... No I don't!... Brethren I have been using the KJV strictly all seventy five years on this earth and I'm still not done with it... I know what it is and that is why I don't care for yours... Everyone on here knows what I read, study and quote and I only have one life... Brother Glen

Btw... Most on here that disagree are the ones who stoke the fire!

 

The reason I keep going after the KJVO myth is that KJVOs keep trying to get newer Christians to believe it. Therefore I believe it's important that those new Christians have access to the FACTS about the KJVO myth-why it's false, why it's a myth, its origins, & especially its LACK OF SCRIPTURAL SUPPORT, even in the KJV itself. Thus, when some new KJVO pops up, it's time to counter him/her lest someone else is misled.

 

Trinity in scripture

The corresponding word in Greek is "Τριάς" (Trias), meaning "a set of three" or "the number three." Trinity - Simple English Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Found in:

“For there are three [Τριάς] that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.” 1 John 5:7 (KJV 1900)

Some might object the Johannine Comma is not in the older manuscripts. But Cyprian quoted it between 200 -258.

CYPRIAN 200-258 AD. Treatises (I 5:423). "and again it Is written of the Father, and of the Son. and of the Holy Spirit, ‘And these three are one' "

The Lord says, “I and the Father are one;” and again it is written of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, “And these three are one.”

Cyprian of Carthage. (1886). On the Unity of the Church. In A. Roberts, J. Donaldson, & A. C. Coxe (Eds.), R. E. Wallis (Trans.), Fathers of the Third Century: Hippolytus, Cyprian, Novatian, Appendix (Vol. 5, p. 423). Buffalo, NY: Christian Literature Company.

 

You do not demonstrate your opinion to be correct.

The pride and arrogance of those who accept exclusive only claims for the KJV without proving them to be true or scriptural may stroke the fire.

The Scriptures including as translated in the KJV warn believers that they can deceive themselves. Believing assertions or claims that are not true is being deceived. Some believe assertions concerning the KJV that are not true.

Subjective personal experience and personal preferences do not make non-scriptural assertions to be Bible doctrine.

 

Anytime. It’s amazing stuff they speak of and their Noah’s Ark museum in KY.
I actually started out with MV’s and eventually found my way to the KJB being my only Bible(s) I use now too.

 

You do realize most KJO’s think the exact same thing you do but with the MV’s misleading people? I do think anyone can learn enough from to get saved or by word of mouth from them, but it changes doctrines.
I just don’t see as many KJO’s really being too bothered though if one is set in their ways with them. Eg, I’ll share about it, but if the person wants to still use their version, so be it. Still welcomed to the church to learn and fellowship!
On the other hand, I see a lot of those that hold to the MV’s really pushing (as Tyndale said, stirring the pot) against those that hold to a KJO view.
I use my KJ”B” and I’m happy, are you?

 

We relocated to the area we now live 18 years ago. Went to the closest Baptist Church for a little while, maybe 6 months, it was KJVO and you would know this within 5 minutes of stepping inside. On our first visit I took my well used NIV study Bible. Did not repeat that mistake. The pastor would mention the value of the KJV every single Sunday. There were of course other doctrinal and behavioral characteristics in-line with KJVO doctrine.

So, we shopped around and spent a few years in one church then another. Was in the latter assembly for 9 years.

Last November or December we started back at the original assembly, the KJVO where we got our first taste of KJVOism. Same pastor but I have to say the issue is far more toned down now. In 6 months we have there there has been 1 reference to the KJV and that was not in relationship to the KJVO position. Yes they use the KJV and I have no problem with that but things have certainly changed. Overall the atmosphere is not as uptight as it once was.

But I have also changed. I have my personal doctrinal position and I will say I'm willing to change my position if a Biblical reasoning can convince me that I'm wrong. But I don't have to be 100% in agreement with everyone nor do I now feel the need to impress anyone with my well reasoned belief system. I just want to go and worship my King, learn from his Word and fellowship with His people. I have yet to have the sit down discussion with the pastor and have never really spoken to him or anyone else there how I feel on this matter. When the sit-down comes I really don't know what I want to say on the matter or even if I will say anything at all. We have to make a decision on church membership soon.

Having said all of that I find the KJVO movement interesting. Same as with the modern preterist movement.

 

First-Are MVs CHANGINE doctrines or CORRECTING doctrines? The KJV has "Easter" in Acts 12:4. Surely you don't believe that the Jews whom Herod was trying to please, who hated Christians, were observing Easter? Surely, you don't believe love of money is THE root of ALL evil? Did Dylan Roof, who gunned down those people in a church, committing a great evil, do it for lova money ?

Actually, the KJVOs who believe as you said are WRONG. God is NOT limited in English to the KJV.

And, while I have no prob with the archaic English of the KJV, (Or earlier versions, either) not everyone can understand 17th c. English that well, especially those who didn't grow up using English.(It's one of the hardest languages for many to learn as a 2nd language.)

And yes, I'm happy using MODERN versions so, when witnessing, I can read or quote Scripture in the same language as my audience. (I study older versions as well.)

 

Well, he did answer your request regarding any KJVO that would support only saved by the Kjv!

 

Eramus never found support for it to be included in his Greek text until ordered to do such by Rome!

 

My Pastor prefers and uses the Niv, but many others use the Esv and Nas!