Featured Where did Lordship Salvation come from?

Don't you believe the Bible?

You would think so but LSers vehemently deny it.

What Eph 2:8 says:
8 for by grace have ye been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God;

What Eph 2:8 does NOT say:
8 for by grace have ye been saved through faith alone; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God;

 

They deny that the scriptures teach justification NOT by faith alone. They insist that justification is by faith alone and ignore the other justifications:

13 for not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified: Ro 2
24 being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: Ro 3
1 Being therefore justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ;
9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, shall we be saved from the wrath of God through him. Ro 5
33 Who shall lay anything to the charge of God`s elect? It is God that justifieth; Ro 8

 

{If Jesus is not the Lord over ALL areas of your life, then he is Lord of none"

 

Think I John answered that issue for us!

 

Saved by Grace alone, received thru faith alone!

 

Peter and Judas both betrayed Jesus, peter was saved, so repented and was restored, judas showed his true fruit!

 

They taught that real salvation produces good works and a changed life, but it is progressive!

 

They would agree that Jesus is the Lord, but not how Lordship theology tends to frame it!

 

Yes, as in fully justified and saved right now. but growing and maturing in sanctification

 

That is exactly what scriptures teach, see Paul discussing Abraham and david in Romans! All grace, no works!

 

They did not, at least as how Dr MacArthur used the term!

 

You are preaching Catholic theology here!

 

No, Paul referring to us us being justified before Holy God, James referring to our saving faith having proof to others now really saved!

 

Pauline Justification holds to being saved by grace alone, thru faith alone, do you?

 

Lol. Welcome to the BB humble guy….

 

To your first question: No
To your second question: I haven't read any early reformers to seek out that specific question. My basic response is that the perseverance of the saints in trusting God is an early form of Lordship salvation whereby the saint lives in faith that Jesus is indeed Lord and the saint glorifies his King through obedience.

 

Be careful with this. There are many rooms in the Christians life that have yet to be cleaned. Can you specify your comment?

 

Lets not start that again.