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Free Will Baptists on Predestination & Election

Discussion in 'Calvinism & Arminianism Debate' started by Humble Disciple, Aug 4, 2021.

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  1. Humble Disciple

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    The main difference between Calvinists and non-Calvinists is not whether God's enabling grace is necessary to repent and believe the Gospel, but whether this enabling grace is given to all people equally or just a select few:

    Bearing False Witness is a Sin, A Warning of God's Judgment
     
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    I have heard of cage state Calvinists. I think you are a cage state antiCalvinist. It's OK. CALVINISTS are not the Boogie man.
     
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    The main difference is whether man reigns supreme in salvation or whether God reigns supreme.
    Free-will is a philosophy based on the assumption that God is evil if he chooses rather than giving humans the sole right to autonomous choice. It's a very selfish and self-centered philosophy that truly seeks to make God weak and dependent upon human will.
     
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    God is never dependent on human will, if anything, human will is dependent on God James 4:13-16

    13 Go to now, ye that say, To day or to morrow we will go into such a city, and continue there a year, and buy and sell, and get gain:

    14 Whereas ye know not what shall be on the morrow. For what is your life? It is even a vapour, that appeareth for a little time, and then vanisheth away.

    15 For that ye ought to say, If the Lord will, we shall live, and do this, or that.

    16 But now ye rejoice in your boastings: all such rejoicing is evil.
     
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    Free Will ism leads to Open Theism

    after all, if God is not in charge of salvation, His inerrant plan can be supposedly oppressed
     
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    Neither Charles Finney nor Open Theism of Boyd should be held by any Baptist!
     
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    Its the logical end for full free willism Gospel!
     
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    Indeed, yet free-will philosophy demands God be subservient to the will of man lest God be labeled a tyrant or puppet master.
     
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    My son attended a Baptist University where Boyd was an adjunct for one theology course. A friend of my son, who holds to Reformed theology was in the course. Boyd apparently berated this young man and went into an angry tirade because the young man dared to question his open theology with biblical observations of God's Sovereignty. The young man learned to stay silent under the tyranny of Boyd.

    This University was one where John Piper once taught, as well as Thomas Schreiner. Both saw the trend of the Baptist General Conference (now Emerge) going the way of heretical open theism. Piper actually debated Boyd and soundly defeated him at the University, yet the powers that be still chose the slope of heresy. Boyds church even kicked him out as pastor because of his path toward liberalism, yet this University still persists. Since my wife is an alum, we get better financial aid, but the administration at this baptist university has gone the way of philosophy as it abandons the the supremacy of God in its core component for life.
     
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    When one gets to the point of being an Open theist, really have to wonder what God now following!
     
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    Just picture God as a cheerleader, pleading with someone, anyone, to accept Jesus and get saved and make His death worth it!
     
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    As the OP is now perma-banned, this thread is now closed.
     
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