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Vaccine and Ingredients

JonC

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Well then Jon, tell me why a parent would want to vax a kid who has a statistically non existent chance of Covid deaths with a vaccine that has a much higher adverse event probability.
Probably because their friends have lost children to covid.
 

JonC

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@JonC . You like numbers, but only your numbers. India is for all practical purposes unvaxed. They averaging 255 deaths a day. USA Averaging 830.
Last time I checked, India had a few more people than us.
India has a 20% fully vaccinated rate.

On 16 September (my birthday....if you want to get me something) they vaccinated 20million. Two weeks prior, in one day, they vaccinated 13 million.
 

Reynolds

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India has a 20% fully vaccinated rate.

On 16 September (my birthday....if you want to get me something) they vaccinated 20million. Two weeks prior, in one day, they vaccinated 13 million.
Numbers I saw were 13%, buy say 20 if you wish.
Their death rate is miniscule compared to U.S.
 

JonC

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Not many because not many have died from it.
What about parents who know friends with vax injured kids.
I do not know anyone who has died from a vaccination (any vaccination) but I know some have.

We list 4 children to covid over the last couple of months in my community.

Where I work we have had over 9,000 vaccinated without any having serious side-effects. We have over 90 sick with covid (most unvaccinated) and over the past few months lost 6 to covid (unvaccinated).

People typically decide what is true based on what they see around them.
 

JonC

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Numbers I saw were 13%, buy say 20 if you wish.
Their death rate is miniscule compared to U.S.
And that is where we got one of the main varients.

Their death rate spiked very high in the summer. They have been on a vacvine mission since then.

India has the highest death toll of any country.

Their vaccination rate (at least 1 shot) is high, and 1 shot is better than no shot.
 

Reynolds

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And that is where we got one of the main varients.

Their death rate spiked very high in the summer. They have been on a vacvine mission since then.

India has the highest death toll of any country.

Their vaccination rate (at least 1 shot) is high, and 1 shot is better than no shot.
You listening to different news than me. They handing out Ivermectin like candy is what they are doing.
 

Reynolds

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I do not know anyone who has died from a vaccination (any vaccination) but I know some have.

We list 4 children to covid over the last couple of months in my community.

Where I work we have had over 9,000 vaccinated without any having serious side-effects. We have over 90 sick with covid (most unvaccinated) and over the past few months lost 6 to covid (unvaccinated).

People typically decide what is true based on what they see around them.
Wow Jon, y'all lost 6 out of 9000 in what is supposed to be a super pandemic.
Y'all lost .06%? Absolutely terrifying. Shut it all down and quarantine everyone.
 

JonC

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You listening to different news than me. They handing out Ivermectin like candy is what they are doing.
I am not listening to any news. I am going on their sites.

India has the largest death toll of any country. This is a fact (they also have a large population).

India's covid death rate spiked very high in the summer. That is also a fact.

As of mid September India had 20% fully vaxed and well over half partially vaxed. They started in the summer giving mass vaccinations. The largest was in September. In August they gave 13 million in 1 day.

In September India stopped giving Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine because they determined the drugs had no effect.
 

JonC

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Wow Jon, y'all lost 6 out of 9000 in what is supposed to be a super pandemic.
Y'all lost .06%? Absolutely terrifying. Shut it all down and quarantine everyone.
It is terrifying for 6 families. It is also troubling for the 90 who are sick (and an issue since these are mission essential employees at a nuclear facility).

And this is not a one time statistic. I'm just talking about a 3 month period.

Edit: and your numbers are wrong.

Out of 9,000 vaccinated we lost 0.
Out of 2,000 unvaccinated we lost 6.
That is .3%.

You are discounting 4,000,000 unvaccinated US deaths as an insignificant possibility.
 

37818

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Are both senerios equally immoral?
Senerio B. Could be immoral, even if civil law allowed such an action. I concur that senerio could have conditions when it would not be. Those conditions were no given.
 

percho

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Why does one get a heart transplant?

Why did a man want to learn if he could do a heart transplant?

What ultimate goal does, the man, seek to obtain through his knowledge and understanding.



and of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, thou dost not eat of it, for in the day of thine eating of it -- dying thou dost die.' Gen 2:17
Gen 3:22 And Jehovah God saith, 'Lo, the man was as one of Us, as to the knowledge of good and evil; and now, lest he send forth his hand, and have taken also of the tree of life, and eaten, and lived to the age,' --

Why; Why did God not want Adam to eat of the tree of knowledge of good and evil?

Do we really know if what we archive is good or evil?
Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.


When Jesus returns what is he going to do, here on the earth? Acts 15:16 After this I will return, and will build again the tabernacle of David, which is fallen down; and I will build again the ruins thereof, and I will set it up:
When Jesus returns will there be humans living on the earth who have not been subjected to 1 Cor 15:51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,-----These? Acts 15:17 That the residue of men might seek after the Lord, and all the Gentiles, upon whom my name is called, saith the Lord, who doeth all these things.

I wonder if they will get sick ? Die?

Does anything happen after this, on the earth? What? When? Then what?

Got to thinking Luke 20:35,36 is an interesting thought dove tailed in there somewhere. Wonder where that goes?



YLT Acts 15:18 'Known from the ages to God are all His works;
 

JonC

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Senerio B. Could be immoral, even if civil law allowed such an action. I concur that senerio could have conditions when it would not be. Those conditions were no given.
We don't know all the conditions. Ivjustvwanted your opinion of the basics.

I made up senerio B based on a 6 year old who died in an accident.
Giving spirit of 6-year-old Burleson girl lives on through organ donation | wfaa.com

Senerio A is the WI-38 strain that was used to produce the rubella vaccine

The rubella vaccine developed with WI-38 is still today as part of the combined MMR (measles, mumps, and rubella) vaccine.

My belief is both cases (the real cases) are tragic, but God brought something good out of it (a vaccine that has saved thousands of children and the potential from the little girl).

I don't know if you have ever seen an "honor walk". It is devastating and hopeful at the same time.
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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The key is in your post (67 years ago).
It is as if it happened yesterday, to a 3 yo child. Do I forget, NEVER. Did it shape my character, yes it did. Will I ever forgive…. Not till all the culprits are driven to everlasting hellfire. Do I hold the government responsible… YES. Will I ever trust them… hell NO.
 

37818

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We don't know all the conditions. Ivjustvwanted your opinion of the basics.

I made up senerio B based on a 6 year old who died in an accident.
Giving spirit of 6-year-old Burleson girl lives on through organ donation | wfaa.com

Senerio A is the WI-38 strain that was used to produce the rubella vaccine

The rubella vaccine developed with WI-38 is still today as part of the combined MMR (measles, mumps, and rubella) vaccine.

My belief is both cases (the real cases) are tragic, but God brought something good out of it (a vaccine that has saved thousands of children and the potential from the little girl).

I don't know if you have ever seen an "honor walk". It is devastating and hopeful at the same time.
Just the issues for organ transplant are not simple.

Organ donation after circulatory death: current status and future potential - PubMed

The Challenges of Defining and Diagnosing Brain Death
 

JonC

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Yep. They have to factor in so much. They have to take all kinds of vaccines and antibiotics. And then the docs have to weigh individual risk factors. And then there is still a chance ones body will reject the organ.

Denver is removing unvaccinated from the transplant list because they have a greater chance of contracting covid. With a transplant the covid mortality rate is 20% to 30+%.
 

Wingman68

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A Compilation Video – Following the Vaccine Science Can Be Troublesome When the Vaccine Scientists Have an Independent Agenda
October 6, 2021 | Sundance | 165 Comments
On October 29, 2019 (nearly 2 months before the first reported cases of SARS-CoV-2 in Wuhan), Anthony Fauci and Rick Bright went on C-SPAN and spoke of the urgent need to switch over from egg-based vaccine manufacturing to mRNA-based vaccines. They said that due to public resistance to gene-based therapies (mRNA), there would need to be some “disruptive” event that causes a scenario where they would not be “beholden to bureaucratic strings and processes.”

Here is a compilation video {Direct Rumble Link} showing the “scientific discussion” as it took place. Perhaps ‘following the science’ was not a good strategy considering the vaccine scientists had an agenda.
Fauci, mRNA Vaccines, and the Connection to the Wuhan Institute of Virology

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