Chosen to Salvation

2 Thess 2:13

13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:

 

As always through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:
MB

 

James 1:18
He chose to give birth to us by giving us his true word. And we, out of all creation, became his prized possession.

 

Those who have been beloved of God and chosen will be experientially saved by the sanctification by the Spirit which results in belief of the Truth.

 

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Yes that is what I said how ever this choosing is for Salvation It's purpose. Election was for the Jews to be a people to God They are still God's people. The one and only elect people
MB

 

Unfaithful teaching.

 

Yep God chooses to save those that believe. John 1:12 we become elect once we are “in Him” Ephesians 1:4

 

They believe because God chose them to believe and gives them the gift of faith.

 

Not necessarily, it says we are saved by sanctification and belief of the truth. Not sanctification alone. It's still before Grace.

2Th 2:13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:
2Th 2:14 Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.
MB

 

Yes necessarily !

 

Your statement makes man the cause agent of his salvation and God the effected agent who then makes the human elect...after the human has caused their own belief to take place.

You state:
1) Humans believe
2) God chooses them
3) We are placed into Christ
4) Once all the above happen, then that human is marked as the elect.

Does anyone else see the problem with Revmitchell's statement?

 

no it doesn’t responding to God doesn’t make one the cause. Y’all need to get better false arguments. The current false arguments are too easy to tear apart

 

Read your first post. I broke down exactly what you said. Did you mis-speak in your first post? You now have changed your assertion. Now you say that humans respond to God. That is different than your first statement when you say "God chooses to save those that believe." In this first statement you place man first and God reacting afterward. Did you originally mis-speak?

 

please don’t tell me what I said or meant. One is not contrary to the other. Our believing is our response to hearing the gospel

 

Rev, I quoted exactly what you said and how you said it. Do you deny what you wrote?

We agree, our believing is because we heard the voice of God.

Do we also agree that not everyone hears the voice of God when they hear the gospel?

Romans 10 makes it clear that many Jews heard the gospel, but never heard the voice of God (the Word).

 

We were elect before the foundation of the world. --Eph. 1:4

 

“in Him” God decided, before the foundation of the world, that all who are “ in Him” are the elect.

 

Here's the whole sentence:

Ephesians 1:3-6 Blessed be the God and Fatherof our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places, even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before him. In love he predestined us for adoption as sons through Jesus Christ, according to the purpose of his will, to the praise of his glorious grace, with which he has blessed us in the Beloved.

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God the Father

Chose us in Christ Jesus before the foundation of the world

God the Father

Predestined us to be adopted through Christ Jesus

According to God's willful choice