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Discussion in 'Calvinism & Arminianism Debate' started by tyndale1946, Jan 5, 2022.

  1. tyndale1946

    tyndale1946 Well-Known Member
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    Poor as my faith in this Substitute may be, it places me at once in the position of one to whom "God imputeth righteousness without works." God is willing to receive me on the footing of His perfection; and if I am willing to be thus received, in the perfection of another with whom God is well pleased, the whole transaction is completed. I AM JUSTIFIED BY HIS BLOOD. "As He is, so am I (even) in this world,"-even now, with all my imperfections and evils. To be entitled to use another's name, when my own name is worthless; to be allowed to wear another's raiment, because my own is torn and filthy; to appear before God in another's person,-the person of the Beloved Son ,-this is the summit of all blessing. The sin-bearer and I have exchanged names, robes, and persons! I am now represented by Him, my own personality having disappeared; He now appears in the presence of God for me (Heb 9:24). All that makes Him precious and dear to the Father has been transferred to me. His excellency and glory are seen as if they were mine; and I receive the love, and the fellowship, and the glory, as if I had earned them all. So entirely one am I with the sin-bearer, that God treats me not merely as if I had not done the evil that I have done; but as if I had done all the good which I have not done, but which my Substitute has done. In one sense I am still the poor sinner, once under wrath; in another I am altogether righteous, and shall be so for ever, because of the Perfect One, in whose perfection I appear before God. Nor is this a false pretense or a hollow fiction, which carries no results or blessings with it. It is an exchange which has been provided by the Judge, and sanctioned by law; an exchange of which any sinner upon earth may avail himself and be blest... Taken from The Everlasting Righteousness Pdf on page 33 by Horatius Bonar... Comments???... Brother Glen:)
     
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    That book is simply one of the best. There are a lot of good books out there but for some reason, when you read him describing what God has done for us you need to be by yourself if you don't want people to see you cry.
     
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    After I read what I posted I did:Cry... It boggles the mind to think that God would love a person that much and me?:Cry... I'm speechless!!!... Still reading and thank you for the insight to give me direction to post the link, Chief Dan George:Whistling... Brother Glen;)
     
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    In another's righteousness we stand; and by another's righteousness are we justified. All accusations against us, founded upon our unrighteousness, we answer by pointing to the perfection of the righteousness which covers us from head to foot, and in virtue of which we are unassailable by law, as well as shielded from wrath. Protected by this perfection, we have no fear of wrath, either now or hereafter. It is a buckler to us, and we cry, "Behold, 0 God, our shield; look upon the face of Thine Anointed"; as if to say, Look not on me, but on my Substitute; deal not with me for sin, but with my Sin-bearer; challenge not me for my guilt, but challenge Him; He will answer for me. Thus we are safe beneath the shield of His righteousness. No arrow, either from the enemy or from conscience, can reach us there. Covered by this perfection, we are at peace. The enemy cannot invade us; or if he try to do so, we can triumphantly repel him. It is a refuge from the storm, a covert from the tempest, a river of water in a dry place, the shadow of a great rock in a weary land. The work of righteousness is peace; and in the Lord we have righteousness and strength. Beautified with this perfection, which is the perfection of God, we find favour in His sight. His eye rests on the comeliness which He has put upon us; and as He did at viewing the first creation, so now, in looking at us as clothed with this divine excellency, He pronounces it "very good." He sees "no iniquity in Jacob, and no transgression in Israel." "The iniquity of Jacob may be sought for, and there shall be none; and the sins of Judah, and they shall not be found" (Jer 50:20). This righteousness suffices to cover, to comfort, and to beautify... Taken from The Everlasting Righteousness Pdf on page 118 by Horatius Bonar... Comments???... Brother Glen:)
     
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    This is excellent. Just hope that people dont think this is conditioned on a mans faith or believing, but rather that it was conditioned on Christ alone, and then Faith is given to them it applies to, so they can receive the comfort and assurance of it.
     
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    Romans 12:3, ". . . God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith. . . ."
     
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    2 And that we may be delivered from unreasonable and wicked men: for all men have not faith. 2 Thess 3
     
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    I know what others on here believe... This old timer has been on here long enough but for you and others who want to take a look from the same source, Chapter 7, page 76, Not Faith, But Christ... Brother Glen:)

    https://www.monergism.com/thethreshold/sdg/bonar/The Everlasting Righteousness - Horatius Bonar.pdf
     
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    Thats in reference to the body of Christ, not all mankind.
     
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    Well his first statement is not true:

    Justification before God is the result of what Christ has done alone. Not ones believing the Gospel, so hes confusing.
     
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    Romans 12:3, ". . . For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith. . . ."

    Then it refers to one's faith after coming to the faith which precedes being placed in the body of Christ. Ephesians 2:8. ". . . through faith . . . ."
     
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    That verse in Rom 12:3 refers to the regenerate body of Christ.
     
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    The Roman epistle is addressed to saints, NOT every man in the world. Post-# 7 - All men have not faith.
     
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    He SAYS that. You are the one who is confusing. I get tired of hyper-Calvinists who are so into what they think is precise theology that they cannot even allow someone to believe the gospel message without some kind of correction or caveat. If you want to get into it with another Calvinist over infralapsarianism vs supralapsarianism or whether Adam had a belly button then OK, but that book, by Bonar is excellent to help a person get saved. It doesn't need anyone to pick at it or critique it for accuracy.
     
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