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  1. Dr. Bob

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    No, never stooped that low :) That was Robert E Griffin SENIOR, my dad the Teamster, who thought we needed the gangster style leader. I'm Robert E. Griffin JUNIOR and more the "southern" Democrat (Dixiecrat) in many areas, although not "white-only" mentality as some of them.

    HHH was a corrupt mayor of Minneapolis, rich from the unions and every leftist cause. Humphrey got himself a senate seat and thankfully sent off to DC. By the 60's when I got involved, Minnesota (my home) had the corrupt traditional DFL (Democrat Farm Labor coalition) in Senator/VP Humphrey and the radical socialist DFL "I'm twice as liberal as Humphrey" Senator Eugene McCarthy. With both running for President (along with Bobby Kennedy), the Democrats showed the moral compass was missing and death spiral of any values gone. The Party of the poor/working man was a sham, and it left me.

    Remember, my point was "membership in a political party doesn't demonstrate whether a person is a Christian or not"
     
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    You sound like Reagan when he changed political affiliation.

    Here in Texas we had to put up with LBJ. Funny as it is, his cousin lived near my wife, and he said he couldn't stand him, but was obliged by family to vote for him.

    Have any of the parties actually not been corrupt?
     
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    Reagan often said, "I didn't leave the Democratic Party. The party left me." I have borrowed that phrase often. :)
     
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    Great question - there seems to ALWAYS be influence/power that corrupts. Mark Twain wrote, "Every civilization carries the seeds of its own destruction, and the same cycle shows in them all. The Republic is born, flourishes, decays into plutocracy, and is captured by the shoemaker whom the mercenaries and millionaires make into a king."

    This was true in the Northern Baptists in the USA. After the split into north/south (1845) both conventions had the seeds of destruction. The South had more conservative, calvinistic basis and did not shift toward godless evolution and liberal modernism like the North. The North responded with "Fundamentalism" but that led to anarchy and small "empires" based on individuals. Some left to form the GARBC in the 30's but that groups slowly succumbed to new evanglicalism.

    Others stayed with the Northern Convention but started to form "conservative" groups for missions and after WWII morphed to a national Conservative Baptist offshoot from the Northern Convention. But the seeds of destruction were present in "non-fundamentalists" in leadership. 20 years later the Conservative Association was riddled with new evangelicalism and another split. The splintering continued.
     
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