Featured I Tim 2:8-14

Has absolutely nothing to do with culture.

 

Have you told your wife that she is subject to man?

 

Nobody says it does. So would you say it is about obedience?

 

If we are going through the Bible with our families, then yes, it should have come up that the wife is to submit to the husband and they are underneath the leadership of men in the church as well. Absolutely.

 

LOL,Good luck with that!

 

fear my wife…. No I respect and admire her. Her not being a slave to me or any other male, well you will have to take it up with her but it doesn’t sit well with her.

 

must have something to do with must submit that she objects to. We are partners not subservient to one another. And I’ve never demanded that she submit to me. Perhaps that’s why we have been happily married for 35 years.

Now my brother and his ex-wife are a whole different story. He demanded she submit to him and she handed him divorce papers. That submission thing costs dearly.

So do you demand that your wife submit to you and how’s that working out?

 

I hear this argument from liberals (or those who have liberal tendencies) frequently. Liberals hate Paul's epistles, and many of the hardcore liberals will even deny that his writings are scripture. If this claim is true then I guess none of the bible applies to us, only to those of whom it was written to at the time.

 

I guess you'll need to point us all to that part in the bible where God tells us to obey Him so long as it agrees with us.

 

Well, then your wife has a problem with God since that is His word.

 

nope, she prefers love to subjugation.

1 Corinthians 13:4–8a (ESV) Love is patient and kind; love does not envy or boast; it is not arrogant or rude. It does not insist on its own way; it is not irritable or resentful; it does not rejoice at wrongdoing, but rejoices with the truth.

 

I’m not a liberal so stick that in your pipe and smoke it

 

Yes, you are - liberalism starts small like with what you are doing. It slowly whittles away biblical doctrine and ends up with those who hold to it mocking the word of God.

 

You can take that up with my wife. I’m not the liberal.

 

Passages about homosexuality also "don't sit well" with certain demographics, and they choose to ignore those as well. Disregarding God's word for your own feelings or doctrine IS liberalism.

1 Corinthians 13 does not cancel out 1 Timothy 2. Do you view all scripture as God-breathed? Or do you think 2 Timothy 3 is also evil?