Tulsa shooting

Just like the NY subway shooter this won't get much if any attention. It is sad that they use tragedies to push political narratives - they don't care about the victims or their families at all.

 

Ever get the sense that the media obsesses over the shooters' motives and background just a wee bit too much? Then some whacko watching it can sit there and say "Hey, I fit that description too! And I'm sick and tired of being sick and tired! I should go shoot up something too!" Then strings of copycats start popping up everywhere.

If the media focused a bit more on the victims and what we could do to bring peace to a troubled society, we might be able to reduce the number of copycats and "triggered" triggermen.

 

Personally I say we get rid of all of the dedicated news stations and go back to 30 min to 60 min nightly newscasts. They don't have time for their spin in that timeframe.

 

Remove guns...you remove the tool for mass killing in social settings.

Yes, I know the counter argument, but the bottom line is that a tool designed only to kill, being easily accessible to anyone, is an open invitation to anyone who is mentally unstable to kill other humans.

 

I know this argument is anything but persuasive, but out of the estimated ~435 million firearms owned by American citizens, the percentage of them used to kill people is so infinitesimally small that one could almost conclude that 99.999% of all guns are defective if their only purpose is to kill.

I think the bigger problem is mental instability. We have a dopamine-addicted society with more anxiety-ridden youth and young adults than ever before in the history of civilization. We can treat the underlying cause, or we can just throw out a few feel good legislative policies that will not treat the real disease.

 

What is your solution to criminals that still have guns and break into people's homes or still commit mass shootings? If someone breaks into my home with a gun what is your advice?

 

Those who are mass shooters are common citizens like you and me who had access to a tool whose only purpose is to kill a living being. The police should have this tool. No other person needs this tool.
The solution is to either have the SCOTUS reinterpret the 2nd Amendment to what the founders intended, which was for each State to have a cache of weapons available to provide to a state militia for the protection of it's citizenry. Or, using the Constitution, remove the 2nd Amendment from the Bill of Rights.
Then, remove all guns from the populace that are not expressly regulated for hunting game such as deer, water fowl, pheasants and other licensed hunts. All persons found to have unregulated weapons would have the weapons confiscated and be fined for their violation.
Christians who are obeying Christ Jesus and God, would be the first in line to turn in their illegal arsenal and register their hunting guns with the government. Christians will stop placing their faith in their weapons and stop making guns an idol of worship and trust. Christians will obey their King and entrust their exiled life to God alone.

That's my solution. I already know that the vast majority will revolt at my solution and label me with titles like "liberal" but, I have God's Word on my side so I will stand alone if necessary.

 

Your absolute ignorance of a topic is on epic display here (IMHO, I blame your liberalism).

 

LOL

 

About the right response from a lib.

 

At the time of the Bill of Rights, "militia" was far closer to the minutemen, who all had their own firearms, than to the National Guard, the current nearest thing to "a cache of weapons available to provide to a state militia". Therefore, I highly doubt the founders' intention was for a centralized weapons cache. SCOTUS would need to ignore the phrase "the right of the people" (not of the state) that's included in 2A, also 1A and 4A, to eliminate most/all private ownership of firearms. And repealing 2A has a lower chance of occurring than the Red Sox winning the 2022 World Series.

 

LOL, you fulfill my prophecy.

 

If the liberal shoe fits....

 

Good luck arguing that was the founders intent, it wasn't.

 

Here is God's Word.

Romans 13:1-2
Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment.

1 Peter 2:13-17
Be subject for the Lord’s sake to every human institution, whether it be to the emperor as supreme, or to governors as sent by him to punish those who do evil and to praise those who do good. For this is the will of God, that by doing good you should put to silence the ignorance of foolish people. Live as people who are free, not using your freedom as a cover-up for evil, but living as servants of God. Honor everyone. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honor the emperor.

1 Peter 3:13-17
Now who is there to harm you if you are zealous for what is good? But even if you should suffer for righteousness’ sake, you will be blessed. Have no fear of them, nor be troubled, but in your hearts honor Christ the Lord as holy, always being prepared to make a defense to anyone who asks you for a reason for the hope that is in you; yet do it with gentleness and respect, having a good conscience, so that, when you are slandered, those who revile your good behavior in Christ may be put to shame. For it is better to suffer for doing good, if that should be God’s will, than for doing evil.

1 Peter 4:12-19
Beloved, do not be surprised at the fiery trial when it comes upon you to test you, as though something strange were happening to you. But rejoice insofar as you share Christ’s sufferings, that you may also rejoice and be glad when his glory is revealed. If you are insulted for the name of Christ, you are blessed, because the Spirit of glory and of God rests upon you. But let none of you suffer as a murderer or a thief or an evildoer or as a meddler. Yet if anyone suffers as a Christian, let him not be ashamed, but let him glorify God in that name. For it is time for judgment to begin at the household of God; and if it begins with us, what will be the outcome for those who do not obey the gospel of God? And “If the righteous is scarcely saved, what will become of the ungodly and the sinner?” Therefore let those who suffer according to God’s will entrust their souls to a faithful Creator while doing good.

Matthew 26:51-53
And behold, one of those who were with Jesus stretched out his hand and drew his sword and struck the servant of the high priest and cut off his ear. Then Jesus said to him, “Put your sword back into its place. For all who take the sword will perish by the sword. Do you think that I cannot appeal to my Father, and he will at once send me more than twelve legions of angels?

Here is the passage you point at:

Luke 22:35-38
And he said to them, “When I sent you out with no moneybag or knapsack or sandals, did you lack anything?” They said, “Nothing.” He said to them, “But now let the one who has a moneybag take it, and likewise a knapsack. And let the one who has no sword sell his cloak and buy one. For I tell you that this Scripture must be fulfilled in me: ‘And he was numbered with the transgressors.’ For what is written about me has its fulfillment.” And they said, “Look, Lord, here are two swords.” And he said to them, “It is enough.”

Notice that in none of these passages, except the Garden, is the use of the sword explicitly approved or disapproved. In the Garden, Jesus tells Peter, and I believe...us ... that he should not use the sword. That is not how the kingdom advances.

So, yes, I have the Bible on my side. I also have the early church on my side.

Today, what I observe is Christians who have made idols of their guns and justified it in the name of Christ...which makes it even more horrid.

 

LOL

 

You failed to actually address my questions. If you think that that would solve the criminal element having guns then I have some beach front property in Arizona to sell you.

 

It actually would drastically reduce the number of people who had guns and therefore (because anyone with a gun has the capacity to be a criminal) help solve the issue.

In the flip side, your position simply propagates the problem in an ever spiraling disorder. You keep adding guns. Then those gun owners become the criminals. So you get bigger guns. Then those with bigger guns become the criminals. So you get bigger guns...
It's a spiraling, negative behavior.

Take the guns away and the potential for being a gun wielding criminal gets less and less.

Again, God explicitly gives government the right to use deadly force against evil doers. You want to use a gun...then enter law enforcement. Otherwise, throw out your killing tool.