What kind of water for baptism???

[Salty]

From another thread That old "Baptism Saves" argument

My own baptism was delayed 5 months due to weather. But I believe I was saved during that whole time.

I am NOT trying to be funny here - BUT
when I read Roby - I got to thinking -
now he did not specify what weather - but (my being from the North) I thought of snow.

SO - if that was the case - would you ever consider baptizing someone in the snow?
Keep in mind that snow is simply the solid version of water.
Also the Bible does say in Psalm 51:7 -
Purge me with hyssop, and I shall be clean: wash me, and I shall be whiter than snow

Some will say - "it must be water" but I remember a former pastor of mine told us when
in was a missionary in the Pacific - they had no grape juice - so they use pineapple juice.

Open for discussion

 

[37818]

Both believer's baptism[immersion] and the Lord's Supper remembrance are symbollic and works' of the faith. Being works neither are essential towards salvation in any way.

 

[Reynolds]

From another thread That old "Baptism Saves" argument


I am NOT trying to be funny here - BUT
when I read Roby - I got to thinking -
now he did not specify what weather - but (my being from the North) I thought of snow.

SO - if that was the case - would you ever consider baptizing someone in the snow?
Keep in mind that snow is simply the solid version of water.
Also the Bible does say in Psalm 51:7 -
Purge me with hyssop, and I shall be clean: wash me, and I shall be whiter than snow

Some will say - "it must be water" but I remember a former pastor of mine told us when
in was a missionary in the Pacific - they had no grape juice - so they use pineapple juice.

Open for discussion

I personally would be sure to avoid using steam.

 

[Conan]

Freezing tundra water should be replaced by snow I would think?

 

[JonC]

For a long time churches insisted on "living water" (running water, like from a stream or river, rather than pooled water).

I prefer Gerolsteiner. It is perfectly balanced and has a great mineral content. Plus, not being still water, I think it could be considered "living".

 

[robycop3]

From another thread That old "Baptism Saves" argument


I am NOT trying to be funny here - BUT
when I read Roby - I got to thinking -
now he did not specify what weather - but (my being from the North) I thought of snow.

SO - if that was the case - would you ever consider baptizing someone in the snow?
Keep in mind that snow is simply the solid version of water.
Also the Bible does say in Psalm 51:7 -
Purge me with hyssop, and I shall be clean: wash me, and I shall be whiter than snow

Some will say - "it must be water" but I remember a former pastor of mine told us when
in was a missionary in the Pacific - they had no grape juice - so they use pineapple juice.

Open for discussion

I was delayed due to cold weather. My pastor at the time didn't believe that true baptism should put anyone's health at risk. I was saved in November, & the water in the creek where he baptized didn't get above 36 degrees til April, & the water was too swift for a coupla weex when it got warm.

 

[John of Japan]

From another thread That old "Baptism Saves" argument


I am NOT trying to be funny here - BUT
when I read Roby - I got to thinking -
now he did not specify what weather - but (my being from the North) I thought of snow.

SO - if that was the case - would you ever consider baptizing someone in the snow?
Keep in mind that snow is simply the solid version of water.
Also the Bible does say in Psalm 51:7 -
Purge me with hyssop, and I shall be clean: wash me, and I shall be whiter than snow

Some will say - "it must be water" but I remember a former pastor of mine told us when
in was a missionary in the Pacific - they had no grape juice - so they use pineapple juice.

Open for discussion

I think that baptizing in grape juice would be perfectly all right. It's mostly water, after all.

 

[Van]

There are anecdotal stories of people being water baptized in inclement weather and subsequently physically dying. The false doctrines of Christianity, such as water baptism is needed for salvation, destroy rather than edify.

 

[Salty]

There are anecdotal stories of people being water baptized in inclement weather and subsequently physically dying. The false doctrines of Christianity, such as water baptism is needed for salvation, destroy rather than edify.

Just to clarify - are you saying that baptismal regeneration is not Biblical
and that Baptism - in itself is simply a command of the Bible?

 

[Marooncat79]

The Early Church dealt w this issue, it is addressed in the Didache ie living, then still etc

it’s how pouring and sprinkling came into view ie lack of water in places like deserts

 

[Van]

Just to clarify - are you saying that baptismal regeneration is not Biblical
and that Baptism - in itself is simply a command of the Bible?

I assume you meant to say "water baptismal regeneration is not Biblical" and that "Water Baptism" in itself is simply a command of Christ found in scripture. Both of those statements are biblical.

 

[Marooncat79]

Chapter 7. Concerning Baptism. And concerning baptism, baptize this way: Having first said all these things, baptize into the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, in living water. But if you have no living water, baptize into other water; and if you cannot do so in cold water, do so in warm. But if you have neither, pour out water three times upon the head into the name of Father and Son and Holy Spirit. But before the baptism let the baptizer fast, and the baptized, and whoever else can; but you shall order the baptized to fast one or two days before.

 

[Van]

Chapter 7. Concerning Baptism. And concerning baptism, baptize this way: Having first said all these things, baptize into the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, in living water. But if you have no living water, baptize into other water; and if you cannot do so in cold water, do so in warm. But if you have neither, pour out water three times upon the head into the name of Father and Son and Holy Spirit. But before the baptism let the baptizer fast, and the baptized, and whoever else can; but you shall order the baptized to fast one or two days before.

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[Deacon]

We are having drought conditions here in SE Pennsylvania. It reminds me of the most memorable baptism I’ve ever attended.

It was dry and hot and water levels were quite low when the church I once attended had an outdoor picnic baptism at a local park, hundreds attended.

When it came time to baptize the pastor gave his sermon and then began wading out into the lake…

Wading, wading, and wading… about 50 feet out it was only knee depth and getting a bit distant to see from the shore.
Now of course we’re Baptists and do believe in total immersion but on that day we did a bit of splashing to get them all wet,
Everyone came out quite muddy, so of course it ruined anyone’s notion of baptismal cleansing.

Rob

 

[tyndale1946]

We are having drought conditions here in SE Pennsylvania. It reminds me of the most memorable baptism I’ve ever attended.

It was dry and hot and water levels were quite low when the church I once attended had an outdoor picnic baptism at a local park, hundreds attended.

When it came time to baptize the pastor gave his sermon and then began wading out into the lake…

Wading, wading, and wading… about 50 feet out it was only knee depth and getting a bit distant to see from the shore.
Now of course we’re Baptists and do believe in total immersion but on that day we did a bit of splashing to get them all wet,
Everyone came out quite muddy, so of course it ruined anyone’s notion of baptismal cleansing.

Rob

Water was no problem in San Diego... Stop thinking little and think big... Our previous pastor was baptized in the Pacific Ocean... Which is only fitting as an old salt having retired from the Coast Guard... Brother Glen

 

[Marooncat79]

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van

that is the full quote of Chapter 7 of the Didache

 

[kyredneck]

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van

that is the full quote of Chapter 7 of the Didache

In your haste to criticize and find fault, open mouth & insert foot Van. You're great at it.

 

[Van]

In your haste to criticize and find fault, open mouth & insert foot Van. You're great at it.

Your disinformation is the opposite of what I said! Thus your false charge becomes valid when you apply it to yourself.

 

[canadyjd]

I think hyssop was some sort of herb.

peace to you

 

[Piper]

From another thread That old "Baptism Saves" argument


I am NOT trying to be funny here - BUT
when I read Roby - I got to thinking -
now he did not specify what weather - but (my being from the North) I thought of snow.

SO - if that was the case - would you ever consider baptizing someone in the snow?
Keep in mind that snow is simply the solid version of water.
Also the Bible does say in Psalm 51:7 -
Purge me with hyssop, and I shall be clean: wash me, and I shall be whiter than snow

Some will say - "it must be water" but I remember a former pastor of mine told us when
in was a missionary in the Pacific - they had no grape juice - so they use pineapple juice.

Open for discussion

That is an interesting thought. Personally, I'd find a tub, melt some snow and dip them under. Everybody takes baths.