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Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by Van, Aug 6, 2023.

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  1. Van

    Van Well-Known Member
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    Repeating a refuted argument may indicate an inability to study scripture and discern truth. Scripture says in verse after verse the "many" who are lost seek eternal life, but only the "few" of the lost find eternal life.
     
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    Once again:

    man by nature doesnt seek after God, doesnt even desire God,
    doesnt understand God Rom 3:11

    11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.
     
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    Scripture says man naturally doesnt seek after or understand the True God Rom 3:11

    11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.
     
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    Folks, when the many were seeking the narrow path that leads to life, they were seeking God at that time. Thus the fictional claim none of the lost ever seek God unless enabled by irresistible grace belongs on the dust bin of history.
     
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    If you believe what you like in the bible, and reject what you don’t like, it is not the bible you believe, but yourself.

    You have been shown what the context tells us but you reject it because you have your proof text that you think supports your view.
     
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    BF you are supposed to be able to give a defense of what you believe but all you do to repeat the same line. Are you unable or just unwilling to defend your position.
     
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    You just dont want to believe the Truth about the natural man:

    again:

    Scripture says man naturally doesnt seek after or understand the True God Rom 3:11

    11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.
     
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    Once again:

    man by nature doesnt seek after God, doesnt even desire God,
    doesnt understand God Rom 3:11

    11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.
     
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    Scripture says man naturally doesnt seek after or understand the True God Rom 3:11

    11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.

    Here is a complimentary text 1 Cor 2:14

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    But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
     
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    Luke 13:24
    “Strive to enter through the narrow door; for many, I tell you, will seek to enter and will not be able.

    The false claims that the lost are unable to some of the time seek God or be led to Christ by scripture have been allowed to be repeated, while never addressing why all the verses teaching the lost do at times seek God, but fail, does not move the ball.
     
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    BF when are you going to start reading things in context. You keep proof texting in the attempt to support your view and context undoes your efforts.

    Rom 3:11 THERE IS NONE WHO UNDERSTANDS; THERE IS NONE WHO SEEKS AFTER GOD.
    Rom 3:12 THEY HAVE ALL TURNED ASIDE; THEY HAVE TOGETHER BECOME UNPROFITABLE; THERE IS NONE WHO DOES GOOD, NO, NOT ONE."
    Rom 3:13 "THEIR THROAT IS AN OPEN TOMB; WITH THEIR TONGUES THEY HAVE PRACTICED DECEIT"; "THE POISON OF ASPS IS UNDER THEIR LIPS";

    Context shows that Paul was using hyperbole to prove his point.

    Now you think that this verse supports your view

    1Co 2:14 But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

    but once again context is your undoing.

    1Co 2:9 But as it is written: "EYE HAS NOT SEEN, NOR EAR HEARD, NOR HAVE ENTERED INTO THE HEART OF MAN THE THINGS WHICH GOD HAS PREPARED FOR THOSE WHO LOVE HIM."

    The natural man, those that have not trusted in Christ Jesus, do not know the THINGS WHICH GOD HAS PREPARED FOR THOSE WHO LOVE HIM.

    Now we know that the unbeliever can not know the things God has prepared for those that believe but man can still know of God and seek to know Him.

    Act 10:1 There was a certain man in Caesarea called Cornelius, a centurion of what was called the Italian Regiment,
    Act 10:2 a devout man and one who feared God with all his household, who gave alms generously to the people, and prayed to God always.
    Act 10:3 About the ninth hour of the day he saw clearly in a vision an angel of God coming in and saying to him, "Cornelius!"
    Act 10:4 And when he observed him, he was afraid, and said, "What is it, lord?" So he said to him, "Your prayers and your alms have come up for a memorial before God.


     
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    Scripture says man naturally doesnt seek after or understand the True God Rom 3:11

    11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.

    Here is a complimentary text 1 Cor 2:14

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    But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
     
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    Rom 3:11

    11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.
     
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    You keep posting the same thing but you have been shown that the context does not support your view. some you just stick your head in the sand and hope.
     
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    You speak in riddles. Flesh things out more. Give some context.
     
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    My reply is no riddle. The title of @Van's thread is Seeking God? @Brightfame52's objection is citing Romans 3:11 and 1 Corinthians 2:14. Rather than giving a solution. So I ask him how?
     
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    Luke 13:24
    “Strive to enter through the narrow door; for many, I tell you, will seek to enter and will not be able.

    The false claims that the lost are unable to some of the time seek God or be led to Christ by scripture have been allowed to be repeated, while never addressing why all the verses teaching the lost do at times seek God, but fail, does not move the ball.

    Anyone who denies some of the lost, some of the time seek God and His promise of "eternal life" deny God's word.
     
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    Scripture says man naturally doesnt seek after or understand the True God Rom 3:11

    11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.

    Here is a complimentary text 1 Cor 2:14

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    But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
     
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    What you talking about ?
     
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