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The old debate between Joe Biden and Kamala Harris

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Logos1560, Jul 29, 2024.

  1. KenH

    KenH Well-Known Member

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    Reminiscent of a few years ago when JD Vance compared Donald Trump to Hitler.

     
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    Which proves DT doesn’t hold a grudge and does what he thinks is best for the country :)

    peace to you
     
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    Just as Joe Biden and Kamala Harris didn't hold a grudge against each other and were able to join together to run for president and vice president in 2020 and do what they think is best for the country. And, further, for President Biden to endorse Vice President Harris for president in 2024.
     
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    I disagree with the “just as” comment.

    I just saw I report that Biden’s public endorsement of Harris was a slap in the face of Obama, who was threatening Joe with the 25th amendment if he didn’t step down and then wanted an open convention to put his choice (not Harris) in as the nominee.

    For DT, despite all his faults, I believe his goals are what is best for the people and the country.

    peace to you
     
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    KenH Well-Known Member

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    I believe that as well about President Biden. I don't believe that any president of the United States has ever intentionally tried to the harm the United States.
     
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    Well, at some point we have to look at the disastrous consequences of the policies enacted and decide we can no longer give politicians credit for good intentions and should consider they might have harmful intentions.

    To open the border to tens of millions of illegal aliens, knowing criminals, drugs and drug gangs, terrorists, child s:x traffickers are among these folks must be seen as intentional harm to the United States.

    peace to you
     
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    I couldn't disagree more. Disagreeing with policies should not be equated with "harmful intentions".

    For instance, I think that the 1913 Federal Reserve Act was one of the worse policies in United States history. However, I do not think that the members of the U.S. House and the U.S Senate who voted for the bill, nor the president who sign the bill, did so with harmful intentions, even though the Act has done immense harm to the United States. I think they were wrong, very wrong, to do so.

    Also, not a few of my fellow minarchists(but by no means all) advocate having open borders. Now, I am skeptical myself; however, if the United States returned to its original constitution, the Articles of Confederation of 1781, then maybe open borders would work adequately as there would not be any drawing by welfare programs, except for as states might administer such, and then any problems would be confined to that state(s).

    Personally, I advocate this:

    State-Based Visas: A Federalist Approach to Reforming U.S. Immigration Policy | Cato Institute
     
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