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Discussion in 'Calvinism & Arminianism Debate' started by 37818, Jul 29, 2024.

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  1. percho

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    Who was God out to get and how was God going to get, Who?
     
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    God has no needs - c.f. Acts17:25

    He didn’t need to create.
    He doesn’t need anything from his creation.

    He does have desires - 1 Tim. 2:4; Hosea 6:6

    God has a will associated with his desire - 1 Thessalonians 4:3

    I believe that if we were to search for what God desires we might find a reason why the tree of the knowledge of good and evil was created.

    Before partaking of that tree, mankind was considered to be made in the image of God.

    Without that knowledge, what was mankind missing that was God-like?

    How did knowing/discerning between good and evil make mankind more like God?

    Why would God want to disallow mankind from partaking of that knowledge?
    A - Sin, Guilt, Shame, Lust, Suffering, Pain,

    How could God use this knowledge to glorify himself through his own creation?

    Rob
     
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    Romans 11:33 O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out!
     
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    What we do know, the untimely acquisition of this divine knowledge of good and evil, was in of itself, by an act of disobedience, a sinful act, not knowing that knowledge of good and evil in finite good created man would cause all humanity to be conceived with sinful natures, because of the knowledge of evil against a finite good creation.
     
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    This is hypothetical, but I'd say "yes".

    I think there is a reason God had Satan deceive Eve rather than Adam. Adam gave in to the desires of the flesh - whether the desire to please his wife or the desire to "be like God".

    Eve was deceived. Adam was not. And Adam was given the command not to eat of the Tree.

    Eve could have been forgiven under the Law (which came later) but Adam "sinned with a high hand".

    There is a difference between the desires of the flesh and the desires of the Spirit.
     
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    We need to lay out what we do and can know. Hypotheticals are guesses we do not know.

    Genesis 3:22, And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil:
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    We can deduce the Son of God to God the Father spoke.

    Also mankind's sin nature was do to mankind acquiering the divine knowledge of good and evil. God being infinitely good, but man being a finite good creation, poisoned by the knowledge of evil.
     
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