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Upright in heart?

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by Van, Sep 28, 2024.

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  1. Van

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    Psalms 32:10-11
    The sorrows of the wicked are many,
    But the one who trusts in the LORD, goodness will surround him.
    Be glad in the LORD and rejoice, you righteous ones;
    And shout for joy, all you who are upright in heart.

    Who are the wicked? Everyone conceived in iniquity. Initially all humanity. Some say there is no god, others say there is a god, but they do not serve Him. They are the lost. They are the foolish. They were us!

    If we actually put our trust fully in God, Father, Son and Holy Spirit, as determined by God, then "goodness" (God's steadfast love) will surround us. We are immersed in His compassion, His grace, His mercy.

    By the washing of regeneration we become the "righteous ones." And as we come to appreciate our blessings as children of God, we are filled to overflowing with joy.

    Our hearts have been made "upright."
     
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    Augustine’s favorite psalm:
    ”The beginning of knowledge is to know oneself to be a sinner”.

    And Corrie Ten Boom’s “Hiding Place” (vs 7).

    Certainly among the top 10 psalms for me!

    Rob
     
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    As far as I can find, there is no such Psalm.

    Psalm 111:10 NASB
    The reverence for the LORD is the beginning of wisdom;
    All those who follow His commandments have a good understanding;
    His praise endures forever.

    Psalm 111:10 NLT
    Fear of the LORD is the foundation of true wisdom.
    All who obey his commandments will grow in wisdom.
    Praise him forever!

    "Aurelius Augustinus (354-430) often simply called, “Augustine” said, “The beginning of knowledge is to know oneself to be a sinner.”" [from the internet]
     
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    "There are several prominent marks by which this Psalm is coupled with the preceding (vid. Symboloe 52). In both Psalms, with the word אָמַ֗רְתִּי, [I said] the psalmist looks back upon some fact of his spriitual life; and both close with an exhortation to the godly, which stands in the relation of a general inference to the whole Psalm. But in other respects the two Psalms differ. For Psalms. xxxi. is a prayer under circumstances of outward distress, and Psalm. xxxii. is a didactic Psalm, concerning the way of penitence which leads to the forgiveness of sins; it is the second of the seven Psalmi poenitentiales of the church, and Augustine's favorite Psalm. We might take Augustine's words as its motto: intelligentia prima est ut te noris peccatorem. The poet bases it upon his own personal experience, and then applies the general teaching which he deduces from it, to each individual in the church of God. For a whole year after his adultery David was like one under sentence of condemnation. In the midst of this fearful anguish of soul he imposed Ps. li, whereas Ps. xxxii. was composed after his deliverance from this state of mind. The former was written in the very midst of the penitential struggle; the latter after he had recovered his inward peace. The theme of his Psalm is the precious treasure which he brought up out of that abyss of spiritual distress, viz. the doctrine of the blessedness of forgiveness, the sincere and unreserved confession of sin as the way to it, and the protection of God in every danger, together with the joy in God, as its fruits."
    Clark's Foreign Theogogical Library, Fourth Series, Volume XXIX. Delitzsch's Commentary on the Psalms, Edinburgh, T & T Clark, 1871. Vol. I. pp. 393-394.
     
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    As best I can de cypher you or your source is saying "The beginning of knowledge is to know oneself as a sinner" was his favorite home grown psalm, rather than anything found or suggested in scripture.

    Further, your source seems to reference Psalm 31 as a prayer under circumstance of distress, and Psalm 32 is a teaching text concerning the need of penitence which leads to forgiveness. Your source might be suggesting Psalm 32 was Augustine's favorite Psalm, but on the other hand, who knows?

    The reference to "the Poet" seems to falsely claim Psalm 32 was based on David"s personal experience of adultery, rather than the inspired word, the work of God. Again, I cannot tell.

    In any event, the OP presented Psalm 32:10-11 in light the New Covenant.

    I think there is a big difference in how and why God has forgiven the guilt (consequence) of my sin under the New Covenant in His blood or under the Old Covenant.

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